From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 15 13:48:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4784416A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:48:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A4D43D5A for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:48:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id DB85A13B6A2; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:48:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF6313B694; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:48:45 +0100 (CET) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j1FDmj21031773; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:48:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:48:45 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Dick Hoogendijk Message-ID: <20050215134845.GJ54011@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Stijn Hoop , Dick Hoogendijk , freebsd-questions References: <20050213152331.2B00E16A4D1@hub.freebsd.org> <1722947768.20050215023424@wanadoo.fr> <20050215065354.GA91679@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <4211A714.50807@open-networks.net> <20050215125606.GA6205@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+B+y8wtTXqdUj1xM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050215125606.GA6205@lothlorien.nagual.st> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on kweetal.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Anthony X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:48:48 -0000 --+B+y8wtTXqdUj1xM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 01:56:06PM +0100, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > I think most of the time Anthony *does* know what he writes about He certainly know more about some subjects than I do, I will not dispute that. However in all these e-mails I've never seen him back off once on subjects that I *do* know, even when faced with overwhelming evidence that contradict his 'facts'. > Discussion will *never* silence such a person, nor will polite questions > do the trick. They feed on response. The only way we got rid of this > person was to *totally* ignore everything he wrote about. *Everything*! > It took quite a while before everybody understood this to be the way to > go. As long as people keep on responding, Anthony's will florish.. >=20 > As he once said (one of the things I agree about): a killfile is no > solution; it's the easy way out; a bit childish even ;-) It is a bit childish; that's why he currently is the *only* person whose mail goes directly to /dev/null. I had actually given him the benefit of the doubt; this is my second encounter with a person named 'Anthony Atkielski' on this list (given the name I presume it's the same one), and it's not pretty _for the second time_. Reasoning wouldn't work the first time, and I can certainly ignore a lot of e-mail that I get from him or others, but I do get a bit upset when a person simply misstates the facts and will not back down (IE better at standards support being just one of said facts). I agree that response is what keeps these threads alive, and I know that I'm contributing once again to the flames. However I'm still hoping that Anthony will stop writing e-mails and start writing code or documentation, or maybe triage bugs, or *anything* else that benefits the FreeBSD project more than bickering about logo's, other OS's, and desktops, and who 'is right' in one situation vs another. Actually *doing* things is pretty satisfying too, you know. In any case, this is my last public e-mail on the subject. --Stijn --=20 Beware of he who would deny you access to information. For in his heart he thinks himself your master. -- Sid Meier, "Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri" --+B+y8wtTXqdUj1xM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCEf29Y3r/tLQmfWcRAudVAKCCP/j84ccBP0Ro9wfmcuEoVrFrlACeLPt5 0XT/lInqOwuSb1TCnqP50zQ= =9VAn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+B+y8wtTXqdUj1xM--