From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 27 10:42:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCE716A420 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:42:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail21.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail21.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5852243D49 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:42:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail21.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0RAgq5u020311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:42:52 +1100 Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0RAgqln085078; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:42:52 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k0RAgpWu085077; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:42:51 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:42:51 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Ken Gunderson Message-ID: <20060127104251.GE2217@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20060127020350.02abf989.kgunders@teamcool.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060127020350.02abf989.kgunders@teamcool.net> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fbsd-amd64 desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:42:55 -0000 On Fri, 2006-Jan-27 02:03:50 -0700, Ken Gunderson wrote: >I've only run fbsd-amd64 on servers. My favorite server ports all >work great but not sure about status of desktop related stuff. For >example, I know OpenOffice has issues. Any other gotchas I should know >about? Bare mozilla (no plugins yet), gnupg, mutt-devel, emacs, mplayer all seem to work for me (though the lack of win32 codecs may be an issue over time). What particular tools are you interested in? >Also that there were some thread a while back that i386 was better >performer if you don't need the extra ram capability. But that was >also in reference to 5.x. I suspect this is highly application dependent. Multi-precision math ([g]mp, RSA/DSA etc) will run lots faster in 64-bit mode. OTOH, applications will be larger (pointers are twice as big) and (generally) have larger working set sizes, leading to lower cache hit rates. Your best bet is to try both and see if you notice a difference. -- Peter Jeremy