From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 3 02:22:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFD516A41F for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 02:22:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ogautherot@vtr.net) Received: from lp01.vtr.net (relay.vtr.net [200.83.1.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19B643D45 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2006 02:22:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ogautherot@vtr.net) Received: from [192.168.10.3] (200.83.72.22) by lp01.vtr.net (7.1.026) (authenticated as ogautherot) id 44800A8A0000A62C for freebsd-small@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 22:22:00 -0400 From: Olivier Gautherot To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 22:20:05 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <44802697.7090301@freesbie.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606022220.06637.ogautherot@vtr.net> Subject: Re: Web site updated... X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: olivier@gautherot.net List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 02:22:03 -0000 Hi George, > > Aren't Soekris/WRAP boards, based on x86 platform, considered "embedded"? > > Yes, but for the moment the new targets are ARM and MIPS. I'll add > x86 as well, but later. In the embedded world the x86 parts still are > not dominant due to issues with power and heat and the fact that the > x86 mainstream is not targetted at that market. This is why Intel > does ARM as well, to cover the embedded space. There is some truth in there but it is not the full picture. AMD bought the Geode technology from Via technology a couple of years ago, ST still markets its STPC and these are targeted at single board embedded systems (running off a Flash). Their grace is the compatibility with Windows, which drives the prices to very competitive levels... from which we can profit now. The XScale/ARM11 is a reaction to the market, when Intel thought that they had to be present in the RISC arena. Now, it is still are from being their "cash cow". "Embedded" mainly means "limited function" and these architectures definitely apply to the definition. They are definitely worth mentioning at some point. Cheers -- Olivier Gautherot olivier@gautherot.net