From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 21:51:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3702A16A407 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 21:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtai110.cox.net (eastrmmtai110.cox.net [68.230.240.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D962213C459 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 21:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id <20070406212730.UNVL24015.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:27:30 -0400 Received: from mezz.mezzweb.com ([24.255.149.218]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id jxTU1W00o4iy4EG0000000; Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:27:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:27 -0500 To: "Nikolas Britton" From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070405103708.GC842@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070405180711.GA60539@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20070406193125.GA27879@kobe.laptop> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (Linux) Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Peter Jeremy , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Do we need this junk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:51:54 -0000 On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:06:20 -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 4/6/07, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> On 2007-04-06 08:40, Nikolas Britton wrote: >> > I don't appreciate being called a lier. Maybe you should step up to >> > the plate if you don't believe my statistics. >> > >> > AMD Semptron 1,259 >> > AMD Athlon_64 2,796 >> > AMD Athlon_XP 2,885 >> > AMD Athlon 812 >> > AMD Duron 741 >> > AMD Opteron 625 >> > AMD Turion_64 175 >> > >> > Intel Pentium_4 8,768 >> > Intel Pentium_4M 291 >> > Intel Pentium_M 1,722 >> > Intel Pentium_3M 233 >> > Intel Pentium_3 6,362 >> > Intel Pentium_D 982 >> > Intel Pentium_2 1,872 >> > Intel Celeron_P2 888 >> > Intel Celeron_P3 529 >> > Intel Celeron_P4 4,224 >> > Intel Celeron_M 299 >> > Intel Xeon_P4 2,380 >> > Intel Core 1,246 >> > >> > Generic i786 1 >> > Generic i686_SSE 33 >> > Generic i686_MMX 114 >> > Generic i686 298 >> > Generic i586_MMX 520 >> > Generic i586 261 >> > Generic i486 30 >> > Unknown 99 >> > >> > Data source: http://www.bsdstats.org/cpus.php >> >> A lot of people are running "bsdstats" ports, and we should appreciate >> the work people have put into making http://www.bsdstats.org/ happen. >> >> I'm not sure I agree with the use you are putting these statistics into, >> whatever. >> >> The original goal of the statistics pages was to serve as a basis of >> version-related and hardware-related information, which can be used to >> convince hardware vendors to support *MORE* FreeBSD systems. >> >> Now you are arguing that because more modern CPUs and hardware are, >> well, "more modern", we should start dropping support for some of the >> systems listed there -- effectivelly reducing the number of systems >> supported by FreeBSD. >> > > I only suggested dropping PC98. Why? If you look at the PC98 page* it > hasn't been updated since FreeBSD 4.11 and bsdstats.org shows zero What make you think that bsdstats is a realistic one? All of my machines do not have bsdstats installed, so there are hundreds or thousands of machines out there that do not have it installed either. > people using it... PC98 is a dead platform like Alpha and Alpha > support is being dropped for FreeBSD 7, but if you look at > bsdstats.org the Alpha platform has more users than sparc, powerpc and > pc98 combined!! -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team - FreeBSD Multimedia Hat (ports, not src) http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org http://wiki.freebsd.org/multimedia - multimedia@FreeBSD.org