From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 13:25:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C644B1065672; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.cksoft.de (mail.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763358FC18; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D54A41C70C; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:25:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cksoft.de Received: from mail.cksoft.de ([62.111.66.27]) by localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PF60vej65yHT; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:25:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 38F2141C733; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:25:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB99C44487F; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:21:12 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: Ruslan Ermilov In-Reply-To: <20080625202317.GB69011@edoofus.dev.vega.ru> Message-ID: <20080708130323.D57089@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <20080618085948.X83875@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> <20080618224531.GA20863@what-creek.com> <20080618225126.V83875@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> <20080618230633.GB20863@what-creek.com> <20080619151421.Q83875@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> <20080623214600.GA51757@sandvine.com> <20080623224150.GA63818@what-creek.com> <20080624085543.S83875@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> <20080625202317.GB69011@edoofus.dev.vega.ru> X-OpenPGP-Key: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Ed Maste , John Birrell , FreeBSD current mailing list Subject: Re: problem: world boot strapping from 7-C to HEAD with CDDL on sparc64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:25:06 -0000 On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 08:57:54AM +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: >> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, John Birrell wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 05:46:00PM -0400, Ed Maste wrote: >>>> All that said, I'd really like to be able to continue building head on >>>> RELENG_6. (In my case I have a rather fast RELENG_6 box so I have been >>>> doing my pre-commit testing there.) Do the changes we're discussing >>>> here involve anything that makes that difficult? >>> >>> Possibly. :-) >>> >>> It depends on whether your RELENG_6 box is up-to-date with respect to the >>> RELENG_6 branch. >>> >>> I think that as current diverges more from 7 it will be harder to keep the >>> tree building on 6. >> > Are we talking about changing the build-/cross- tools? If not, > it shouldn't be affected. > >> I think the problem here simply is that you are relying on the headers >> to be installed on the base system instead of in src|obj copies. I do >> not know if/how we do it for bootstrapping though. >> > If it's about build- and cross-tools, then yes, they rely on > the host compiler, headers, etc. because they will be run on > _this_ computer, using its CPU and the current kernel. So if a bootstrap tool cannot be build - what's the solution? The problem is way beyond building HEAD on 6 as we just found out here -- you can no longer update a 6.2-STABLE to 7-STABLE either without going through a latest 6-STABLE or building WITHOUT_CDDL and then rebuilding on 7. Either way its two builds. If I am not mistaken not even 6.3-RELEASE could be source updated to 7-STABLE. And 6.3-RELEASE is the only supported RELENG_6 release at the moment. This is from one STABLE branch to the next STABLE branch. I think this is unacceptable, no matter what and how. -- Bjoern A. Zeeb Stop bit received. Insert coin for new game.