From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 3 13:01:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16573 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 May 1998 13:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1 (smtp.snet.net [204.60.3.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16558 for ; Sun, 3 May 1998 13:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from metcalf@snet.net) Received: from daisy.snet.net (mail.snet.net [204.60.7.83]) by smtp1 (8.8.8/8.8.8/SNET-bmx-1.1) with ESMTP id QAA09923; Sun, 3 May 1998 16:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snet.net (hrfr-sh12-port17.snet.net [204.60.46.17]) by daisy.snet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/SNET-pop-1.1) with ESMTP id QAA11696; Sun, 3 May 1998 16:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <354CCCD0.44D6297F@snet.net> Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 16:00:16 -0400 From: "Jeffrey M. Metcalf" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, metcalf@snet.net Subject: Re: kern/4498 References: <11658.893656543@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message <199804262309.RAA28247@pluto.plutotech.com>, "Justin T. Gibbs" write > s: > >>Synopsis: Files corrupted when written to Iomega Zip 100 on ProAudioStudio SCS > >>I > >> > >>State-Changed-From-To: open-closed > >>State-Changed-By: phk > >>State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 26 10:47:53 PDT 1998 > >>State-Changed-Why: > >>The PAS16 scsi-port is a piece of junk which you shouldn't > >>use for anything but slow old cd-rom drives > > > >That's a sorry excuse for closing the bug. > > No, the controller is literally made to drive read-only devices, and > the bug is not easily fixed. It also uses PIO synchrous to the async > SCSI bus, so you are limited to 600-700 kbyte/sec, but your cpu will > not have any time to spend dealing intelligently with the data. > > But I can send you a card if you want to spend time on it... > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal Hi Poul-Henning, Since you seem to be knowledgeable about the failings of the PAS SCSI adapter, I was wondering if you would tell me what you think about my current setup. I was the one who originally reported the bug, kern/4498. Before I heard from you on closing this bug, I went ahead and bought a ZIP-ZOOM SCSI card. It was only about $50 US. It has an AIC-6360 (fully Adaptec 1520 compatible) chipset. It has the following specs: Data transfer : 8 or 16 bit transfer Host transfer rate : 3MB/sec SCSI transfer rates: 2MB/sec (Asynchronous) 5MB/sec (Synchronous) Since the IOMEGA ZIP SCSI can't operate faster than a say 1.5MB/sec, I feel this is more than adequate. The ZIP seems to work well in FreeBSD with the 'aic' device driver. It also works well in WinNT and Win95. A question I have is this. I attached an IBM 7208/011 SCSI-2 8mm tape drive to the adapter. It is actually made by Exabyte. It seems to work extremely well from WinNT, but causes the following error upon bootup on FreeBSD: aic at line 2308: unexpected bus free state Panic Panic for historical reasons. The machine proceeds to reboot. When I try it on the PAS-16, the system doesn't reboot, but errors result and the tape drive is not detected. Here's what I'm asking if you have any ideas of: 1. Is it something proprietary in the IBM (Exabyte) 7208/011 that's causing the problem or is it a limitation of the aic device driver? Recall it works fine from NT. 2. Asuming there is no problem with the AIC-6360 or the aic driver, am I correct in concluding that most SCSI tape drives are slow so that having a better adapter JUST for the ZIP and tape drive would be pointless? Thank you for your input. Sincerely, JM -- Jeffrey M. Metcalf metcalf@snet.net http://pages.cthome.net/metcalf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message