From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 20:53:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3A5EE7 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 20:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x22c.google.com (mail-qa0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B5B129AB for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 20:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id j7so5628527qaq.17 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 13:53:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kZnkAwZp1T03UXcmO8dll16qzcGBu0LOVWvnP/lIhkc=; b=g4JTckTkrLPscbQzlfsVhI9WiQlBSLywlqa7suqE0yiz0FeA5gDBccCvPmx8pkcuuJ vrlI+lBRAyo+iHvKtOZ/TRsTJt/S40Ud7z0wDwcmCeQTT4AC0btNmGTETFXl9S7+qlCs x12Ubyi0+8A+hq85RK2Eea7rFiUX5X6oRKtQE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kZnkAwZp1T03UXcmO8dll16qzcGBu0LOVWvnP/lIhkc=; b=Oncuo2I+za2TcWuWTGghhoYZrcdjdC8qpiwEtZNLMWsYzOsI+vl24spXjWKmRuwJTV 46Vo0mh35bD59vYiEu40qx7PK3oDm265UWBA6K4zXqH1D+ZKngTlPkErSOSVaQ7S4v5o JXhEN/x0kupAmQuoZugfO3XzFZBstChkIjnlRr6l0oT8i97tNW02eEx914VqxDvlGwmj H+z24x7m1Hg9eQ5Cw94tiQAieyskBi5Cay+bg5BeYTRWwqzUtEP6FomvH6S6atJZQfiW K6X5A7UUY37hrqn3FZAiULFdTKCddWkaycx5S7AyVFX/RCtzTvio1tLKetP1VcsPIdH6 B9+g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm58mhP9K9+8evm6L1KlKXEddIuBqUpbA5NEAUae2WTuXWp3jh+7/K/aP+EqEIzzm9WqngC X-Received: by 10.224.28.135 with SMTP id m7mr65115693qac.44.1401828787816; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 13:53:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.96.222.131 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:52:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9D835692-C9A7-42B3-B514-2382C47ABD4F@freebsd.org> References: <92E4FB10-DDC8-4B3E-9242-4E8494491630@FreeBSD.org> <538DBAEC.5060905@gmail.com> <538E2924.3090002@gmx.de> <538E2AC9.7010309@sasktel.net> <538E32E5.5040400@marino.st> <9D835692-C9A7-42B3-B514-2382C47ABD4F@freebsd.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:52:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD bug tracking moves from GNATS to Bugzilla To: Michael Gmelin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Matthias Andree , "marino@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" , Stephen Hurd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 20:53:09 -0000 On 3 June 2014 13:51, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > >> On 03 Jun 2014, at 22:41, John Marino wrote: >> >>> On 6/3/2014 22:06, Stephen Hurd wrote: >>> Matthias Andree wrote: >>>> Surely there may be valid and sometimes useful comments by people who >>>> aren't the original reporter, but for the common case that the bug >>>> evolves into a discussion between a developer and a reporter having a >>>> valid BIDIRECTIONAL communications channel up front helps a lot. >>> >>> I would venture that docs bugs and certain classes of website bugs >>> rarely have communications. For example: >>> >>> Those bugs would simply not have been submitted if I had to create an >>> account first. >> >> >> If the submitter's interest in getting the bug known in order to be >> fixed exceeds the distaste for registration, then yes, the report would >> still get submitted. (For example, if that person *really* wants to >> access FreeBSD forums via IPv6 and nobody knows it's busted, they would >> probably bite the bullet). >> > > Ah, is that the reason why I had so many issues with it lately? Duno. If you can, please file a bug and let us know :) > Could bugzilla maybe allow email verified submissions without an account?= So you report a bug with your email address and have to click verify in an= email response to get it to a state people will look at it. That would eli= minate the whole "oh no, one more account/password" hassle, but reduce spam= and lack of working back channels. See above: =3D=3D=3D To preempt the next question: why don't we allow users to submit via email but verify with a token? That system isn't possible with how the gateway is set up now. Its a long term possability. If someone wants to help set that up please contact me offline (at bugmeister@). =3D=3D=3D --=20 Eitan Adler