From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jan 27 22:27:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21581 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:27:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21563 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:27:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA23445; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:57:47 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id QAA07248; Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:57:45 +1030 (CST) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:57:45 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Sue Blake Cc: FreeBSD Chat , Yana Lehey Subject: Re: Back to school Message-ID: <19990128165745.B4819@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990128162246.A4819@freebie.lemis.com> <19990128171124.48589@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990128171124.48589@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 05:11:24PM +1100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, 28 January 1999 at 17:11:24 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: > On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 04:22:46PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: >> My daughter has just gone back to school after the summer break. She >> brought back a sheet of paper today with various hints on how to use >> their Microsoft system. One thing I found particularly interesting: >> >> * Deleting a file is simple. Right click on the Start button and >> choose Explore. >> >> * Scroll down to the Network Neighbourhood. Navigate your way to >> the folder as before. >> >> * Move the mouse on to the file you want to change and right click. >> You can now delete or rename the file. >> >> Is there something wrong with me to think that this is more >> complicated than `rm file'? > > I don't know. You decide :-) > > * Deleting a file is simple. Left click on the root window and > choose xterm. You should have one open if you're using the machine. > * Give that xterm the focus (either by moving the mouse over it > or left clicking on it) and type 'locate filename'. This is a more detailled level than that of the original. And if you want to delete a file, you don't need to use locate. With the method described in the info sheet, you have no choice. > * If that doesn't work you might need to create your locate > database. One way is to su to root and run /etc/weekly. > Otherwise, study the man page for locate. Again, not needed. Anyway, this is a system administration task which the students aren't allowed to perform. > * When you have discovered the full path of the file, > type 'rm path/filename'. Right. You need to do this. > * If there are no problems with permissions, the command should > succeed, in which case you will see no acknowledgement. > If you need to change the permissions, type 'man chmod' and > study for a while. If you need to change the owner, the command > to study is chown but you'll need to su before you can use it. Not handled in the original sheet. I hope so, anyway: what happens if one student wants to delete somebody else's files? > * When you have deleted the file, close iconise or leave the xterm, > right click on the root window, and select the program you are > working with. No, leave it open. You're not using X correctly. > * If you are not using fvwm2 with Sue's fvwm2rc of December 1998, > the above instructions will need to be modified. Consult your > window manager's man page to learn how to read its config file, to > find out how menus, etc, if they exist, can be activated. Again, outside the scope of the discussion. I can see you're trying to be the devil's advocate here, but it doesn't really fit. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message