From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 29 21:39:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A51510656AA for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC2B8FC20 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69A7EB46F6; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:39:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B9545152; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:39:51 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IdB3J1S-BQb0; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:39:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-196-111.home.otenet.gr [94.64.196.111]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B41451B2; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:39:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9TLdoFF081979 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:39:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9TLdnmG081978; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:39:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: RW References: <4AE5F897.3000103@rawbw.com> <200910271703.12828.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20091027213134.GA85815@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200910272046.00289.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20091028021417.GA93608@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <57d710000910271930u79b618f6m2bae6cf5c3c8fa83@mail.gmail.com> <4AE94914.2090905@locolomo.org> <877hue9o93.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20091029183435.5d6c3f0f@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:39:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20091029183435.5d6c3f0f@gumby.homeunix.com> (RW's message of "Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:34:35 +0000") Message-ID: <871vkl3mmy.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:39:53 -0000 On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:34:35 +0000, RW wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:08:24 +0200 > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> What is nice about Sendmail today is that with minimal changes to a >> base FreeBSD installation (the rc.conf(5) variable called >> "sendmail_enable" and a SMART_HOST value in sendmail.mc) one can >> quickly get up and running with a local-only MTA that: > > sendmail_enable exposes sendmail to the world. You don't need > to set anything for a local relay. I should have been more clear: I meant sendmail_enable="NO" (instead of "NONE"). This does not open Sendmail to anyone: keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ sockstat -4 | sed -n -e 1p -e /send/p USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS root sendmail 3001 4 tcp4 127.0.0.1:25 *:* I'm a bit tired of saying the same thing many times, so I will stop saying ``please, work on making this happen, and let us have the patches''. I'll drop out of this thread now, because it has already taken too much of my time to write replies.