From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Jul 25 0:21:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C23637B400; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 00:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D76A43E5E; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 00:21:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g6P71jq61986; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:01:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:01:45 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Bruce Evans Cc: Doug Barton , Mike Barcroft , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Standardized make options (or no doesn't always mean no) Message-ID: <20020725070145.GE56367@sunbay.com> References: <3D02AB11.F373AB4@FreeBSD.org> <20020609123557.X21758-100000@gamplex.bde.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KlAEzMkarCnErv5Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020609123557.X21758-100000@gamplex.bde.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --KlAEzMkarCnErv5Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 12:42:59PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Doug Barton wrote: >=20 > > Mike Barcroft wrote: > > > > > > Is anyone planning to do something about the hugely confusing state of > > > NO/NO_ options? I can never remember which options have an underscore > > > after the NO, so I end up writing commands like > > > `make kernel ... NO_KERNELCLEAN=3Dtrue NOKERNELCLEAN=3Dtrue'. It wou= ld > > > very nice if we could standardize this and add some compatibility > > > shims for historical spellings. > > > > In the past versions of this conversation, the general agreement is that > > going forward we should probably standardize on underscores to seperate > > words. So, NO_FOO rather than NOFOO. However, no_volunteer has come > > forward to do the work you've described, so if you're volunteering.... > > :) >=20 > On my list of things to fix after the changing the spelling of "nothing" > to "no thing". :-) :-) >=20 I'd volunteer to do it if we could come up to a (violent) agreement. We'd provide the compatibility knobs that would also trigger a warning (a .warning to be added to make(1)) that NO_FOO should now be used instead of NOFOO (or vice versa, if we decide to go that way). I would personally prefer the NO_FOOs since these would make things more readable and disambiguate the things like NORMAL, NOTES, NODES. What's NODES? node(s) or "no DES"? :-) Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --KlAEzMkarCnErv5Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9P6JZUkv4P6juNwoRAhD1AKCHEnloIk1fUAGncIJdh+Nb2V0cNgCgiCPv GF5lF2fpAuhXm19AAbjReig= =oKcK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KlAEzMkarCnErv5Q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message