From nobody Mon Jan 30 10:33:33 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4P54KC0S6Cz3cBrF for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 10:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4P54KB286Jz3x9q for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 10:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 2001:14f8:200::1 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of pi@freebsd.org) smtp.mailfrom=pi@freebsd.org; dmarc=none Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.95 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1pMRTh-0004ma-1G for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 11:33:33 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 11:33:33 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tooling Integration and Developer Experience Message-ID: References: <202301300254.30U2sm0k061914@dell.no.berklix.net> <97020cad-f913-2985-2093-e4c23bf671e3@antonovs.family> <86357sxsly.fsf@cthulhu.stephaner.labo.int> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.40)[-0.400]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all:c]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12502, ipnet:2001:14f8::/32, country:DE]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[pi]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4P54KB286Jz3x9q X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hello, > I had a similar thing happen to me, the mailing list FreeBSD-doc seemed to > exist as if no one existed, and there was no one posting in it except for > the automated bug reports from the bots. > I have not had any replies to my several posts either. > So can the admins tell how many people actually > subscribe to FreeBSD-doc, The list has 496 subscribers right now. (speaking as one of postmaster@). > or is this just a place to report bugs and people > should discuss FreeBSD doc-related issues elsewhere? Or is it that almost > nobody cares about the FreeBSD documentation? >From my observation, the last few month led to a huge pile of workload on many folks that are involved with FreeBSD stuff, so not many folks had time to reply/think things through/answer. I had the same problem... I see doc-stuff happen mostly on reviews.freebsd.org. (speaking as one of phabric-admins). Pau Amma is the most active docs-person as far as I can see. I have not calculated stats, just my gut feeling. -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 Now what ?