From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 10:42:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F19316A4B3 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgr1.xmission.com (mgr1.xmission.com [198.60.22.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324C443FAF for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from mail by mgr1.xmission.com with spam-scanned (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1ACN03-00026y-01 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:42:24 -0600 Received: from [207.135.128.145] (helo=misty.eyesbeyond.com) by mgr1.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1ACN02-00025B-01; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:42:23 -0600 Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) h9MHhsjG069628; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:43:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.12.9p1/8.12.9/Submit) id h9MHhqAB069627; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:43:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:43:52 -0600 From: Greg Lewis To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20031022174352.GA69537@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <200310221155.40121.x@Vex.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310221155.40121.x@Vex.Net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on mgr1.xmission.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=8.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=no version=2.60 X-Spam-Level: cc: Tim Middleton Subject: Re: freebsddom and java's flaming hoops X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:42:29 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 11:55:40AM -0400, Tim Middleton wrote: > I also have the JDK 1.3 binary packge installed on a 4.8 box. It is amazingly > annoying to install as well, of course, due to having to grab it from a > special location, and click through the agreements and so forth... but at > least it installed... and there's a few less flaming hoops... clearly I'm > whining. But someone has to. (-: I'm desperately sorry that the legal agreements which constrain the distribution of several years of work by a number of people (me included) are annoying. I'll get right on that. Actually, I've been looking into how I can make the patchset download a little easier, but your posts have done little except get me a little agro and less inclined to work on that. Next time I'd appreciate it if you left out the whining. Constructive criticism is great. Wading through the whining to get to it just makes people less inclined to even read your post in the first place, let alone look for useful points (and you did in fact have one hidden away in the first post). "When you whine like a stuck pig, or flame like a blowtorch, then people get angry. If you want to ACCOMPLISH something, p'raps you should learn some tact." -- Random, on rec.games.mud -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org