From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG  Sun Apr 13 05:52:14 2003
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D3237B404
	for <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>;
	Sun, 13 Apr 2003 05:52:14 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from sentry.24cl.com (174.113.sn.ct.dsl.thebiz.net
	[216.238.113.174])
	by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CE343FAF
	for <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>;
	Sun, 13 Apr 2003 05:52:13 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from zlists@mgm51.com)
Received: from winbloat (unknown [10.0.1.10])
	by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475C92942D
	for <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>;
	Sun, 13 Apr 2003 08:52:12 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <200304130852120370.002F0F8B@sentry.24cl.com>
In-Reply-To: <200304130216.15475.metrol@metrol.net>
References: <200304130216.15475.metrol@metrol.net>
X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.01.01 (4)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 08:52:12 -0400
From: "MikeM" <zlists@mgm51.com>
To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Subject: Re: PATCH: Forcible delaying of UFS (soft)updates
X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
Precedence: list
List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code
	<freebsd-stable.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>,
	<mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>,
	<mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:52:14 -0000

On 4/13/2003 at 2:16 AM Michael Collette wrote:

|...
|Did my mail get written to the drive prior to suspending?  I'll 
|grant you that this isn't in the same league as moving cash around, 
|but to me that mail is absolutely mission critical.
|
|I'd love to get 10% more battery life from my laptop, but not at the
|expense of having a file system that loses data on any unclean 
|shutdown.  Be it moving $500, storing E-Mail, or just saving a 
|document I had been working on.  ...
 =============

In your case, if you consider what you are doing on the notebokk to be
"mission critical", it would not be prudent to use the optional feature the
patch provides.

My reading of this thread has not found any indication that the patch is in
effect either by default or without your desire to run it.