From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 6 18:34:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A24C37B400 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6A143E42 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:34:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com) Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719AB28C2C; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:34:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:34:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Leftwich X-X-Sender: To: Ken McGlothlen Cc: FreeBSD LIST Subject: Re: I KINDLY NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE In-Reply-To: <861y9bpir3.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> Message-ID: <20020806212747.K86473-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> Organization: Video2Video Services - http://Www.Video2Video.Com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 6 Aug 2002, Ken McGlothlen wrote: > Ganesh Kumar writes: > | But the problem is with "communication". When I was taking care of mail > | servers, we got spam(and email bombs too) from a particular webhost. But > | making the admin understand our problem was a pain for me ! (bcos, it > | originated from taiwan ) > > In most cases, I don't block unless there's a significant problem getting the > offending ISP to take the complaint seriously. After blocking some fifty or > sixty hosts in South Korea and China, I finally had to get proactive. It's not > really up to me to convince them that there's a problem; I figure if their > customers can't send mail where they wish, that eventually they'll realize that > *they* have a problem that needs to be addressed. > > Nobody likes being on an isolated intranet, and I think that should be the > natural consequence of being an inconsiderate netizen. > > | If someone can block the legitimate spams to the list (from freebsd group) > | atleast and prevent mails from that address alone ,would save us :) > > Well, I don't think the FreeBSD lists should necessarily be as aggressive about Hello - just wanted to chime in my two-cents, seeing as this thread has an ALL CAPS Subject line *sarcastic, cynical grin* It isn't so much a matter of our beloved list(s) becoming aggressive, per se, but I think with so much cool technology and CGI coding techniques, you'd think there would be a way to strike out spams as you go to read your Inbox, if not block receipt of them. Was that at all clear? For example, I just glimpsed two emails in a row on this list about COPYING DVDS INSTANTLY or some crap. I wish there were a way for list members to go to the FreeBSD website and mail lists area, enter their own email address, copy/paste the entire line of the "Message-ID:" (because all spams have one I assume), then click a submit button saying something like [Start a Spam Report]. The cgi script would email a one-time token, either a URL for the reporter to click on or some kind of long mangled horribly unique subject line for the reporter to reply back with. > spam as I've been---but I have to admit that I wouldn't mind. If I were a > customer of some ISP, and I lost a valuable resource because my ISP was > ineffective at controlling spam from their site, I'd switch ISPs. Eventually, > the ISP would get the hint. ISPs do not get the hint. I worked at one (good one) for nearly three years and we constantly dealt with OTHER sites that were terribly lax. A dollar is a dollar. :( PS - Oops, this isn't directly about FreeBSD questions, apologies. -- Peter Leftwich President & Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message