From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Wed Dec 20 14:36:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E5BE8C82F for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x22a.google.com (mail-wr0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3384D701B3 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id l19so10108163wrc.2 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 06:36:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NdZCxHPUpVpOlurCWVuYNJVGyeRseAxPL7qMH3MzMFc=; b=Ru01hfSJCXyRiE87e2aDpfVeI8qI/V82ippqPeXnQiU04pz1kuGZgWvpVB+hyjfaJ4 JYVLRd5fEDyCiMvR2Ckq4FP9LCmOI167emqNbmg+5ldvi+gc9FeTm4T6Jm1ChY08EEA8 KL3njJ6DALgPak57NkUIJcIQkJ72glnyXz/CS/lKsAiSX17A/Rl64C2PZj0f4ShMT61Y W/rwn5MWV7mW87BaYnvjvLCpcBazcR/jRHwEVz3ZQM+LQWjFj9v4+HsOeFahrOnFm9SH iE4pZSnDsK60TeZQlZVCqxB0dzUfLXQcbVPlSRU0rC03qvfuI3u9NdtxzA7V0PwxeKyX uAHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NdZCxHPUpVpOlurCWVuYNJVGyeRseAxPL7qMH3MzMFc=; b=hL3R0BattIPqbYw1PUhAGaJNBQFwj+7u930GWUwefNZNPPPQFa3R9xvYJuf4yUB1X8 qne0vXigPMVXn+3VJ5LgvovSoOoCdbjUi6kLcQCwc2HVS4z2SUFL+A/faAOSSL6Px/xU GjWoBbJ5cQfdND6xkuxgENkoXO8e1GuH6fELQ3MVGdtZOZnULakyC3OfFEilsbxh9GiZ nKxAnruA3KsvMvpUHPpindM/zXCPgXr13EqrV59sLgEDxX/GkRgtIYySdgzpAJNojOBi UtVRprEpwjhxbyOrHEWsIHH10A4e8ami9AfbABGbl6bTB7t3xXKU13b0wDDoL7rLIgyE LR9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKDLiB5BcjDiTxgUg1IUqri2D7lyLPs7VghMeUwG5K26Ffwyn2O 6UaMD55Uxutmq+rVN7nBPCk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBovRMB34eeekQCQvhwErXNLgYkVkSDKHbZr2+vJhzP5jeObyonVRdN30/TXhCChhcxZ1D4n5iQ== X-Received: by 10.223.186.197 with SMTP id w5mr8233950wrg.201.1513780562747; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 06:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ernst.home (p5B0238CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [91.2.56.204]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i65sm12876594wme.20.2017.12.20.06.36.01 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 20 Dec 2017 06:36:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 15:36:00 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Johannes Lundberg Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vote: making wayland=on default (also posted to ports@) Message-ID: <20171220153600.3b2b56b6@ernst.home> In-Reply-To: References: <20171220132717.0eb5777d@ernst.home> Reply-To: gljennjohn@gmail.com X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:36:05 -0000 On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 12:53:20 +0000 Johannes Lundberg wrote: > > Can you guarantee this? I seem to have mesa-libs stuff installed > > even though I use the nvidia-driver. May be that pkg just > > installed mesa-libs as a dependency for some other package. > > > > I'm using the AMD Ryzen which has no on-board graphics, so I'm > > happily using my NVIDIA GPU and have absolutely no desire to > > change because someone enables wayland by default. > > > > x11-toolkits/gtk30 will get some added dependencies: > libwayland-client.so:graphics/wayland \ > libwayland-egl.so:graphics/mesa-libs \ > libxkbcommon.so:x11/libxkbcommon > > Is this a problem for Nvidia users? I imagine the only way to find out would be to try it. But if it's only gtk30, then it should be possible to avoid using it. I have no idea what wayland entails, or what it's good for, so I can't voice an opinion. -- Gary Jennejohn