From owner-cvs-all Wed Mar 14 11:23:52 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8F337B719; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16991; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:23:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25930; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:23:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15023.50490.58772.449835@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:23:38 -0700 (MST) To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: nate@yogotech.com, asmodai@wxs.nl, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The Project and onward [was: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c] In-Reply-To: <20010314111927Q.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> References: <15023.42384.196115.528084@nomad.yogotech.com> <20010314104836N.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <15023.48910.778438.228247@nomad.yogotech.com> <20010314111927Q.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Again, we can agree to disagree. The parts of FreeBSD that set us apart > > from the other OS's are submissions by brilliant coders and visionaries, > > many of whom are no longer as active as they once were. > > I think we must simply have a very different definition of "brilliant" > then. The people I've worked with these last nine years have been > some very bright folks, but brilliant? Albert Einstein was brilliant. > Richard Feynman was brilliant. Folks like you and I are merely > "smart" :) Well, that's pushing it a bit. Compared to you and I, the folks who implemented most of the breakthrough technologies in FreeBSD are brillliant. :) :) :) :) > > Or the VM system, or the easier install tools, or the ports system, or > > SMPng, or real-working shared libraries, etc.... > > I would argue that all of these are incremental refinements and all > fairly obvious ones at that, requiring more of an investment of sweat > than brilliance. Again, I disagree completely. And, I believe the folks that did the work would disagree completely. Anything as ground-breaking is more than a refinement. The VM system is a total re-write. The ports system (your baby) might be considered a incremental refinement, but SMPng is way more than an incremental refinement. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message