From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jan 27 10:32:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD3A37B401 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:32:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.laserfence.net (apollo.laserfence.net [196.44.69.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7F543F3F for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:32:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@unfoldings.net) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by apollo.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18dE3e-0002ku-00; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:32:35 +0200 Received: from prometheus-p0.datel.laserfence.net ([192.168.255.1] helo=prometheus.home.laserfence.net) by apollo.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18dE3M-0002kl-00; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:32:18 +0200 Received: from phoenix.home.laserfence.net ([192.168.0.2]) by prometheus.home.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18dE3I-000FcO-00; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:32:12 +0200 Received: from will by phoenix.home.laserfence.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18dE3G-0004n9-00; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:32:10 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Willie Viljoen To: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: Project to improve FreeBSD PR Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:32:10 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200301270026.32035.will@unfoldings.net> <20030127173112.GC60735@anthonychavez.org> <20030127131652.A97223@blackhelicopters.org> In-Reply-To: <20030127131652.A97223@blackhelicopters.org> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200301272032.10399.will@unfoldings.net> X-Spam-Score: (/) X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *18dE3M-0002kl-00*wGf4mV2.b5c* X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020422 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 27 January 2003 20:16, Michael Lucas wrote: > Just my $0.02. > > I would also recommend either using DN's site, or using one of the > existing FreeBSD news sites if the goal is to create a site to handle > news. > > A long time ago, a group of people decided to start a FreeBSD advocacy > project. They went off and started DN. Now, DN does some good > things, but they don't accomplish general FreeBSD advocacy. > > We have sites that list articles, i.e., www.freebsd.org/news. What's > needed is for people to submit patches to that page. > > Please, let's not reinvent the wheel. I don't want to squash anyone's > enthusiasm, really, but what we need are solid advocacy materials to > hand to wanna-be advocates, not Yet Another PHP-based News Posting > Board. Writing those things is fun, but it's not what needs to be > done. :-( Not entirely what I had in mind.. :) I bought freebsdnews.org earlier today, so we can do with it what we like= once=20 we get it up. I was thinking more of a news site on the periphery though,= not=20 a central news agency, ie, something with longer articles specifically ab= out=20 FreeBSD, ie, indepth looks at releases, interviews with (or letters from)= =20 developers, that sort of stuff, which the printed news papers, rather tha= n=20 the PHP posting forums, will run, and ofcourse a headlines page, wich wou= ld=20 pretty much just be a mirror of freebsd.org/news (if people start botheri= ng=20 to use it, which we'll also try to promote) We'll see what happens, for the moment, it won't be going up before Feb. = 14=20 anyway, work (or overwhelming workload) issues here have forced me to pus= h it=20 back abit (sigh) > > =3D=3Dml > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 10:31:12AM -0700, Anthony C. Chavez wrote: > > I'm going to stick my neck out here and (again) recommend that you > > consider using the advcoacy page at Daemon News: > > > > http://advocacy.daemonnews.org/ > > > > DN's goal is to represent not just FreeBSD, but the BSDs in general. > > > > The site is dead at the moment, but IMO, it would be an ~excellent~ > > choice to house this project. We (rather, I) had actually planned to > > put something together within the next few months, anyway. > > > > What does everyone think? > > > > -- > > Anthony Chavez http://www.anthonychavez.o= rg/ > > mailto:acc@anthonychavez.org jabber:acc@jabber.anthonychavez.= org > > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 03:32:18PM +0200, Willie Viljoen=20 wrote: > > > On Monday 27 January 2003 15:27, you wrote: > > > > Willie Viljoen wrote: > > > > > In the excitement of setting up a project, it seems Stacy and I > > > > > have managed to steal it inadvertantly from Peter Kieser. Our > > > > > sincerest apologies to Peter for the offence, we hope that we c= an > > > > > mend some fences and possibly join forces with him. > > > > > > > > [..chomp..] > > > > > > > > Wow.. One second I'm begging people to help with bsdevents.org, a= nd > > > > the next people are taking hostages to work on projects.. I wish= all > > > > projects went like this. > > > > > > > > So, is this only for general advocacy, for "to do" items, events, > > > > etc? Which one? All of them? Should I NOT register bsdevents.or= g? > > > > (sheesh, whic IS IT?! :)) > > > > > > Register :) > > > > > > I'm planning to get freebsdnews.org later today once some people re= turn > > > some e-mails, but it will be specifically for links to news article= s > > > and release announcements and such things, no reason we can't link = the > > > two sites though, create a sort of BSD web ring like OSDN have done > > > with > > > slashdot/freshmeat/sourceforge etc :) > > > > > > > I can also offer www/dns/etc for the project if anyone still need= s > > > > it. > > > > > > That would be great, I think we've got DNS and mail mostly sorted, = but > > > some more WWW mirrors are always appreciated, I'll let you knowf > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > -- > > > Willie Viljoen > > > Freelance IT Consultant > > > > > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue, Universitas > > > Bloemfontein > > > 9321 > > > South Africa > > > > > > +27 51 522 15 60 > > > +27 51 522 44 36 (after hours) > > > +27 82 404 03 27 (mobile) > > > > > > will@unfoldings.net > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message --=20 Willie Viljoen Freelance IT Consultant 214 Paul Kruger Avenue, Universitas Bloemfontein 9321 South Africa +27 51 522 15 60 +27 51 522 44 36 (after hours) +27 82 404 03 27 (mobile) will@unfoldings.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message