From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 16:01:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4F016A4CE; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:01:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354CE43D1F; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:01:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1CTjHs-0002yh-01; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:01:04 +0100 Received: from Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (XZTUU2Z6weS2asNC1WFvj4rjeEa2h6-ZZGJdLgMUQgtZ+EIijBxGZi@[84.128.192.148]) by fmrl04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1CTjGN-1WPp8i0; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:59:31 +0100 Received: from Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) iAFFxp6A006351; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:59:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: (from www@localhost)iAFFxpxW006350; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:59:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) X-Authentication-Warning: Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net: www set sender to Alexander@Leidinger.net using -f Received: from 141.113.101.32 ([141.113.101.32]) by netchild.homeip.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:59:50 +0100 Message-ID: <1100534390.4198d276e82a8@netchild.homeip.net> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:59:50 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Andy Fawcett References: <200411151151.33028.freebsd@redesjm.local> <200411151357.33691.lauri@kde.org> <200411151500.31461.andy@athame.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200411151500.31461.andy@athame.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 / FreeBSD-4.10 X-Originating-IP: 141.113.101.32 X-ID: XZTUU2Z6weS2asNC1WFvj4rjeEa2h6-ZZGJdLgMUQgtZ+EIijBxGZi@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 96db62bd-22cd-4b44-9f34-56dd2db9ad50 cc: Lauri Watts cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org cc: kde-freebsd@freebsd.kde.org Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] X related scripts in Xclients ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:01:15 -0000 Zitat von Andy Fawcett : > I'm in complete agreement with Lauri on this one. I fail to see where > the improvement is, and if anything it makes things worse because of > POLA. > > For me, I don't want to see such a change. You're talking about policy, Jose talks about features. >From a feature point of view: you don't have to use it. If you feel more comfortable to use /etc/ttys, you're still free to use it (with or without the work of Jose going officially into FreeBSD). I see an improvement here: we're starting most programs/services from (LOCALBASE)/etc/rc.d/, why should we make an exception for [xkg]dm? Exceptions are not good for new users. It's also more easy to start and stop with a rc.d script than with /etc/ttys (less characters to type). You may not need to start/stop it often, but when you have to, it's IMO more comfortable. Bye, Alexander. BTW.: Before I switched to gdm, I've used a start-script for xdm since a long time... maybe 3 or 4 years. -- http://www.Leidinger.net/ Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org/ netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137