From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 14 20:57:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA1B16A474 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (114-103-74-65.gci.net [65.74.103.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C64B43D48 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:57:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beech@alaskaparadise.com) Received: by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id C50E64064; Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:57:39 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: Alaska Paradise To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:57:18 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200606140934.k5E9YPqm035393@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <003401c68faa$08d029b0$6500a8c0@amd> In-Reply-To: <003401c68faa$08d029b0$6500a8c0@amd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart28080015.JsH58908S8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200606141257.37325.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: Olivier Nicole , kitt1411@hotmail.com, pirat@access.inet.co.th, doi maesalong Subject: Re: FreeBSD users of Thailand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:57:44 -0000 --nextPart28080015.JsH58908S8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp 874" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline You might want to look at DesktopBSD. http://www.desktopbsd.net This is very easy to install for new users. Beech On Wednesday 14 June 2006 03:59, doi maesalong wrote: > Dear Mr Nicole > Thanks for the response. It is very nice that someone from the local > academic institution is interested in this particular problem. > We willl need all the helps we can get. > > I am not sure if you see the underlying problems the new users in Thailand > encountered. > > From the thai webboard ( such as in www.thaibsd.com. This site is run by > one of the staff at teacher college in Pitsanulok,Thailand - though it's > domain name ends with dot com , this is not a commercial site. it was for > the sake of convenience to get the site up quickly. Another site is > http://www.thai-aec.org/forum/ ) , we noticed that the newbies faces a lot > of problems during installation. Few commonly encountered problems are : > 1 CD error ( burned from download iso ) > 2 incomplete software ( again error from either during download or during > burning CD) . I encountered this problem myself inspite of correct MD5. So > common occuring such that I resorted to obtaining the CD by direct orderi= ng > from FreeBSD Mall. And yet , I got error from the purchased disk. Perhaps > this might be due to my old hardware. > 3 Another very common complaint from the webboard is the failure during > porting. This is a very common indeed. And this, in my opiniion having be= en > in the same situation before, is very discouraging for the new users > indeed. And as you might know, compounding with the slow modem speed most > user had in Thailand,this will certainly discourage the new users to pers= ue > the FreeBSD route. I do not think this is FreeBSD problem but rather the > unfamiliarity of the FreeBSD and porting system on the new users part ( > perhaps they do not have latest port ). > 4 the root of all problem is our lack goof background in english. > > What we have in our plan is to have an autorun cd filled with OS & > necessary application softwares. Everything is in the CD so that users do > not have to download ( only one option to install the software for users = to > select ie, from CD). One last important thing is to have instruction to > the user in Thai language ( we will definitely need someone to help on th= is > ie. writing command ( in shell script or ???) to automate the whole > process, since most of us have no experience or know how.) > > This approach should have the new users up and running quickly without > bandwidth problem or missing dependency files. > > Thanks in advance for the help. We definitely need your help. > > Regards, > > Somner Srivisal > > ps. I am currently living in the US and having been in contact with Khun > presert regarding this matter. This proves that "The world is Flat" ( by > Thomas Friedman ) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Olivier Nicole" > To: > Cc: ; ; > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:34 AM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD users of Thailand > > > Khun Prasert, > > > > Good initiative, very good idea. > > > > Well I have more interest in the server use of FreeBSD and obviously I > > cannot read Thai, but if I can help... > > > > Best regards, > > > > Olivier > > Pathumthani > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3 - Release Date: 6/7/2006 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - Sys. 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