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Date:      Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:03:25 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>, Chuck Paterson <cp@bsdi.com>
Cc:        smp@FreeBSD.ORG, Bob Bishop <rb@gid.co.uk>
Subject:   Re: Options with SMPng
Message-ID:  <20001010120325.H87663@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20001010113737.B87663@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 11:37:37AM %2B0930
References:  <20001010113737.B87663@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200010100225.UAA11314@berserker.bsdi.com> <200010091340.HAA06839@berserker.bsdi.com> <200010091639.JAA03990@john.baldwin.cx> <20001010113737.B87663@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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On Tuesday, 10 October 2000 at 11:37:37 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Monday,  9 October 2000 at  9:39:43 -0700, John Baldwin wrote:
>>
>> On 09-Oct-00 Chuck Paterson wrote:
>>>       I think we ought to dump the KTR_EXTEND stuff. This makes
>>> the kernel run soo slow that it isn't really usable. Without
>>> KTR_EXTEND the penalty is minor.
>>
>> Hmm, well, combined with my ktr-verbose hack, KTR_EXTEND's ability
>> to print out a useful string directly has proved useful for tracking
>> down bugs with interrupts disabled, or when, for example, PCI interrupts
>> are firing too fast for any work to be done because the source wasn't
>> being quieted on the alpha.
>
> Agreed.  Nobody's pretending that the KTR_EXTEND is useful in a
> general-purpose kernel, but it makes a lot of difference when
> developing.  I don't see any good reason to dump it.

On Monday,  9 October 2000 at 20:25:00 -0600, Chuck Paterson wrote:
>
> 	I realize that the implementation may currently cause
> this, but isn't the ktr_verbose really orthogonal to KTR_EXTEND.

I'm not sure I understand the reference here.

> 	Perhaps my problem with KTR_EXTEND can be fixed by
> comments. There have been people trying to run with this because
> they thought this was the needed to get useful tracing.

Ah, that's a misunderstanding, of course.  I'll take a look at the
docco.

Greg
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