From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 9 17:12:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AE0106564A for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 17:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8343D8FC15 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 17:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Sep 2011 17:12:36 -0000 Received: from g225207059.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO apollo.emma.line.org) [92.225.207.59] by mail.gmx.net (mp028) with SMTP; 09 Sep 2011 19:12:36 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+8oIcps7e8zAQdV8bZv0SmGfRQJh8yQdfSbHUeeW nvOkqHXNyW8Lor Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACB923D34D for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:12:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E6A4903.2000103@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:12:35 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <4E651DCF.30605@FreeBSD.org> <201109052146.p85Lkous037023@fire.js.berklix.net> <4E67935C.6080702@aldan.algebra.com> <4E68AC85.4060705@icritical.com> <4E68F34C.6090504@FreeBSD.org> <4E6A08DD.8020307@icritical.com> In-Reply-To: <4E6A08DD.8020307@icritical.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: sysutils/cfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 17:12:38 -0000 Am 09.09.2011 14:38, schrieb Matt Burke: > If someone deletes a package I use from ports, they are FORCING me to jump > through an awful load of hoops to get what I want/need. No. If people would please take note that the package does *not* magically disappear from your computers because someone deletes it from ports -- and usually it has been abandoned by the upstream years before that happens. > Let's look at the subject of this thread: What happens if I'm a CFS user > and my hard disk dies? I install the latest release, pull my backups back > in, and find that the FreeBSD people have decided they don't want me to be > able to access my encrypted data any more. What do I do? It's not FreeBSD people who've decided that, but the upstream vendor. Don't use unsupported/unmaintained software for critical purposes, it's as simple as that. I refuse (as one who vouches for removal of dead ports) to be held as a scapegoat for someone else's mistakes. The whole discussion turns into wanting FreeBSD to jump in if someone else abandons their software. That won't work. > Attempt to compile CFS from vendor source? Possibly. If not, see to backups and/or migration in due time. We can't possibly support software that is unsupported by the vendor, but that's what you're asking for. > Waste time trying to re-make a port? In need, check it out from the Attic and beat it into shape. > Install the ports tree from a FreeBSD6.1 CD I have lying around? Quick answer. > Just install some other OS? As though that would fix anything about "upstream disappeared" issues. > What exactly is the administrative overhead of having a FORBIDDEN, etc port > in the tree if it compiles, works, and people are happy to use it > regardless of its flaws? That's been answered often enough. No need to reiterate the arguments.