From owner-freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Wed Sep 9 13:43:21 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B135F3D139A for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2020 13:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from connect.ultra-secure.de (connect.ultra-secure.de [88.198.71.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Bmjs50cQvz4HQp; Wed, 9 Sep 2020 13:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (Haraka outbound); Wed, 09 Sep 2020 15:41:35 +0200 Received-SPF: SoftFail (connect.ultra-secure.de: domain of ultra-secure.de does not designate 127.0.0.10 as permitted sender) receiver=connect.ultra-secure.de; identity=mailfrom; client-ip=127.0.0.10; helo=connect.ultra-secure.de; envelope-from= Received: from connect.ultra-secure.de (webmail [127.0.0.10]) by connect.ultra-secure.de (Haraka/2.6.2-toaster) with ESMTPSA id 0346591F-F421-40E7-BBBE-7F730AE1AC94.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA verify=NO); Wed, 09 Sep 2020 15:41:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 15:41:28 +0200 From: rainer@ultra-secure.de To: matthew@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Exploring the updateability of FreeBSD 8.2 -> 12.1 In-Reply-To: <6b2eea23-5ac1-73a2-1c3a-7cece6efebc6@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <2a78c4416eaa4bb90665075743ba7e7a@ultra-secure.de> <20200909130242.GA90890@freefall.freebsd.org> <6b2eea23-5ac1-73a2-1c3a-7cece6efebc6@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: X-Sender: rainer@ultra-secure.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.0 X-Haraka-GeoIP: --, , NaNkm X-Haraka-GeoIP-Received: X-Haraka-p0f: os="undefined undefined" link_type="undefined" distance=undefined total_conn=undefined shared_ip=Y X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on spamassassin X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Haraka-Karma: score: 6, good: 1253, bad: 0, connections: 1259, history: 1253, pass:all_good, relaying X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Bmjs50cQvz4HQp X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:88.198.0.0/16, country:DE]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 13:43:21 -0000 Am 2020-09-09 15:27, schrieb matthew@FreeBSD.org: > For such a large jump in versions, it would probably be a good idea to > obtain a new hard drive and do a complete fresh install of FreeBSD > from scratch, install all the necessary packages, copy over data and > add any local configuration to replicate the functionality of the old > system. This has several advantages: > > * You will still have the original 8.2 system available to revert > back > to in case of problems > * You can adapt the disk partitioning to suit what current FreeBSD > needs, or you change low level things like switching from UFS to > ZFS > if desired. > * It takes the pressure off -- you can in principle work on > installing > the new system off-line, apply whatever acceptance tests you need > and then only have as much downtime as it takes to swap in the new > drive. It's principally a VM, so I could create a snapshot. I'm now considering doing a parallel, fresh install, though. Thanks for the input. Rainer