From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 31 1:13:33 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E6D37B401 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 01:13:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76E843F75 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 01:13:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (root@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6/Sunbay) with SMTP id h0V9DNor030074 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:13:23 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6/Sunbay) with ESMTP id h0V9DMxQ030061 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:13:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0V9DLpb030055; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:13:21 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:13:21 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: David Schultz Cc: Christopher Vance , Steve Kargl , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seat-belt for source upgrades from stable to current Message-ID: <20030131091321.GE6346@sunbay.com> References: <20030129191822.GO78848@starjuice.net> <20030131120311.F16630@aurema.com> <20030131030916.GA11445@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030131034043.GA53996@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20030131040506.GA11769@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030131050711.GA54395@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20030131163422.A26022@aurema.com> <20030131055815.GB11988@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2qXFWqzzG3v1+95a" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030131055815.GB11988@HAL9000.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --2qXFWqzzG3v1+95a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:58:15PM -0800, David Schultz wrote: > Thus spake Christopher Vance : > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:07:11PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > > : On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 08:05:06PM -0800, David Schultz wrote: > > : > Thus spake Steve Kargl : > > : > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:09:16PM -0800, David Schultz wrote: > > : > > > OT: Is there a good way to get the CVS metadata in /usr/src and > > : > > > /usr/ports without transferring the entire source tree over the > > : > > > network? On some machines, I'd like to be able to do a CVS > > : > > > {diff,log,update} now and then, but I don't have the disk space > > : > > > for the entire repository. I usually end up blowing away /usr/= src > > : > > > and fetching a new copy from a CVS server, but I'm sure this is > > : > > > far from ideal for the people who pay for that server's bandwid= th. > > : > > >=20 > > : > >=20 > > : > > anoncvs > > : > >=20 > > : > > See the handbook for info. > > : >=20 > > : > That's a great answer...to a different question. ;-) > > :=20 > > : It's the correct answer. I assumed that you knew > > : how to use cvs. > >=20 > > cvsup gets me everything I need to track and compile both current and > > stable. > >=20 > > I don't want to be forced into using cvs when there's a better tool > > available (for some definition of better). I get paid to use cvs at > > work, and that's how I know to choose something else... > >=20 > > For a while, I used to grab the whole repo (with cvsup), and used cvs > > to get current and stable out of it, but now I consider that a waste > > of space/time, and have reverted to just using cvsup to get the tags I > > want. > >=20 > > I'm not a FreeBSD developer, and very rarely (just a handful of times) > > have had to modify existing stuff to do what I want, so I don't need > > my own repo to commit to. With that, disappers any need to use cvs. > >=20 > > Perhaps you can explain why cvsup is the wrong answer... >=20 > I don't know about Steve, but cvsup is the wrong answer for me > because it's a mirroring tool and not a version control tool. > Among the things I would like to do are: >=20 > - Update to a specific version of a specific file from the > repository. >=20 > - Generate a diff between two revisions in the repository, > or between a version in the repository and some local > patches of my own. >=20 > - View logs for particular files. >=20 > I asked the question in hopes that there would be some neat > feature of cvsup that mocked up some CVS metadata for me, but > since nobody has mentioned any such thing, I guess I'm out of > luck. Mirroring the entire repository is not an option on > machines with less than 6 GB of spare disk.[1] Transferring the > entire source tree over the network via anoncvs is suboptimal when > all I really want is a few kilobytes of 'CVS' subdirectories. > But I guess it will have to do for now. >=20 >=20 > [1] When the system is an aging dual PPro or 200MHz Alpha using > SCSI, buying new drives is not practical. >=20 Well then learn how to use anoncvs? Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --2qXFWqzzG3v1+95a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+Oj4wUkv4P6juNwoRArdhAJ9mB0HVhTSnvHP5eBFiP6EuUauUbgCfZXyr /o9lA3ofXXhc4BEY/rxJpDY= =wgfY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2qXFWqzzG3v1+95a-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message