From owner-freebsd-zope@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 23:02:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: zope@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9AD1065673; Mon, 28 May 2012 23:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi.freebsd@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4318FC14; Mon, 28 May 2012 23:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so5306094pbb.13 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:02:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eanUol+8dEU+NC4QD+Mxtl2LZHOjXFZPGpWqcDLOA4s=; b=D96EbDrjnHFEbf/0xyOumiNgWpnxeOVvEUqFjJ8DAXAcoDBr+WWEmc1ovVYX8jT9KM sT6NsByHZJA/OkbFPkLftoE1iZ0gbmSaKdMBB8dhzU6Fxr836e4YqZ3fXkWk+PeR7EKX e8+1X5+2zHu0Kp9KKwhmj+n1WtehJHPp8pGRgQ25kJwWBp2AHnL+z+txISmLq/UYz/Ab Q9ohjNnRwGMcUZs12itIXPaH7UPzxNEIDtkfUW2z8hzN6RCYWIN0MiSeKAKAp/xKXV6B 9in30a0qyN0DNy88bne+N+ByaQA/oJzbNkFc9jaPK8moY47O1FImNiBhFATtvpZdaLgM F8sw== Received: by 10.68.242.162 with SMTP id wr2mr32208037pbc.125.1338246139016; Mon, 28 May 2012 16:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miwifbsd.dyndns.org ([175.142.170.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rv5sm20621826pbc.56.2012.05.28.16.02.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 28 May 2012 16:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Martin Wilke Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:02:11 +0800 From: Martin Wilke To: Li-Wen Hsu Message-ID: <20120529070211.1308b19d.miwi@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20120528174458.5300cfbd.miwi@FreeBSD.org> <4FC3B25A.2020004@yandex.ru> Organization: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: skreuzer@FreeBSD.org, python@freebsd.org, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov , zope@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] python2.4 removal zope and zope211 affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-zope@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: miwi@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Zope for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 23:02:26 -0000 On Tue, 29 May 2012 02:51:23 +0800 Li-Wen Hsu wrote: > Hi, >=20 > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov > wrote: > > Hi, Martin, > > > > Martin Wilke wrote on 28.05.2012 13:44: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Finally I'm working on to remove python 24 from the ports tree, > >> and the reasons are clear. Support was dropped by 2008, and there > >> are a lot of unpatched security holes. We have warned about this > >> since 2 years ago, and now I will really take action to drop it > >> from the ports tree. > > > > I have no objections, but know people that do :). I ever know > > FreeBSD committer that using old zope. >=20 > I apologies jumping to conclusion too quick, and totally forget about > setting DEPRECATED thing. I agree to set it as an official > announcement, and we can wait another month, I believe this is the > final time of postpone. Nope, we have already mention that ever and ever and ever again, this time i dont do that where a problem with that is this time not mine, the python@ histroy can prove that. I wont postpone it again!!!! >=20 > > We have only three ports, that wish exactly python 2.4 version: > > > > net/honeyd (skreuzer@FreeBSD.org) I wrote him yesterday a mail. no reply, but just in case that port can live without python 24 > > www/zope =A0 (estartu@augusta.de) > > www/zope211 (estartu@augusta.de) >=20 > miwi has written a mail to estartu@augusta.de, I am not sure about if > skreuzer (CC'd) > know this plan. >=20 > www/zope and www/zope211 can also be set deprecated, how about > net/honeyd? can it work with newer Python? I looked at the project > site, it seems moved to somewhere else. >=20 > > And only one port that depends on exact 2.5 version: > > > > www/google-appengine (nivit@FreeBSD.org) >=20 > I think we don't have a exact plan to remove 2.5 currently, do we? >=20 > > I prefer to remove both of python24 and python25 because they both > > EOL. But I'd still set them all to expiration period of month or > > two. We have such a tradition. >=20 > I agree to remove python24, and not object to remove python25, newer > google-appengine > can run with python27 and I would like to use python27 to develop new > system, and > users have python25 apps deployed are not affected. Is there anybody > still using > develop/maintaining systems with python25 on appengine? +1 for py25 removal.. since is the same situation.. >=20 > >> So here is the final patch [1] that has already been reviewed by > >> lwshu@ and wen@, but I would like to discuss regarding the zope > >> ports. > >> > >> First of all I will clean up the zope version from the > >> bsd.python.mk. Now I would like to know what you guys think if I > >> were to remove www/zope and keep www/zope213. Another option is to > >> merge www/zope213 to www/zope and just remove www/zope211 and > >> www/zope213 completely. What do you think about this? > >> > >> Thanks Martin > >> > >> [1] > >> http://miwifbsd.dyndns.org/patches/py24rm-3.diff > > > > > > > > Our zope213 port didn't use ZOPESKELDIR, SZOPEBASEDIR so it may > > look like this: > > > > +if ${ZOPE_VERSION} =3D=3D "2.13" > > +ZOPE_PORTSDIR=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ${PORTSDIR}/www/zope2= 13 > > =A0.else >=20 > You are the Zope expert! Will fix the patch >=20 > > I prefer to keep it as zope213 for some time. >=20 > We do, too. Do you have a plan for updating www/zope to 2.13? BTW, > what's the status of > BlueBream? >=20 > Thanks, > Li-Wen >=20 --=20 +------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----------------+ Facebook: miwi1 Twitter: miwi_ With best Regards, Martin Wilke (miwi_(at)_FreeBSD.org)