From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 24 11:31:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983AF16A425 for ; Wed, 24 May 2006 11:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@scoop.co.nz) Received: from a2.scoop.co.nz (a2.scoop.co.nz [202.50.109.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB08543D53 for ; Wed, 24 May 2006 11:31:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrew@scoop.co.nz) Received: from a2.scoop.co.nz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a2.scoop.co.nz (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4OBVH3R001603; Wed, 24 May 2006 23:31:17 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@scoop.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by a2.scoop.co.nz (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id k4OBVH4M001600; Wed, 24 May 2006 23:31:17 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@scoop.co.nz) X-Authentication-Warning: a2.scoop.co.nz: andrew owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 23:31:17 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton To: Craig Edwards In-Reply-To: <44743358.2020304@winbot.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060524232827.J62075@a2.scoop.co.nz> References: <20060523120100.37D2B16A54F@hub.freebsd.org> <20060523083944.H96736@eboyr.pbz> <20060524220703.K62075@a2.scoop.co.nz> <44743358.2020304@winbot.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (a2.scoop.co.nz [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 24 May 2006 23:31:17 +1200 (NZST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.1/1479/Wed May 24 17:17:23 2006 on a2.scoop.co.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 11:31:19 -0000 On Wed, 24 May 2006, Craig Edwards wrote: >> Come to that, gentoo's emerge system is pretty good, having learnt a lot >> from FreeBSD's ports system, and then gone a few steps further. >> >> Andrew >> > > I agree, however, i do not like the gentoo dependency upon python for its > package management system. It has not broken on me yet, however i can imagine > if it does it would be a nightmare to fix, as python is not a trivial > program. If FreeBSD ever were to attempt an emerge-like system, it would be > convenient imho (although probably less maintainable?) to have it done in > something smaller and easier to manage (and easier repair when broken?) such > as perl or shellscript. I'm a fan of perl myself, but I don't really see that dependency on python is more of an issue than dependency on perl would be, or more of an issue than the current dependency of the portupgrade tools on ruby. Andrew ------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew McNaughton http://www.scoop.co.nz/ andrew@scoop.co.nz Mobile: +61 422 753 792 pgp keyid: 1C7A8CFD -- "We are trying to figure out how you conduct a war against something other than a nation-state and how ... you conduct a war in countries that you are not at war with," -- Donald Rumsfeld, 27 Jan 2006