From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 28 09:20:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F52D1065679 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de [217.11.53.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9558FC08 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p5B1548A0.dip.t-dialin.net [91.21.72.160]) by mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47C05844015; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:20:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.Leidinger.net [IPv6:fd73:10c7:2053:1::2:102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D7F1795; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:20:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.4/8.13.8/Submit) id p2S9KAFq086774; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:20:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.ec.europa.eu (pslux.ec.europa.eu [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:20:10 +0200 Message-ID: <20110328112010.19795t4h8scqbzks@webmail.leidinger.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:20:10 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Jesse Smith References: <1301189037.4069.43.camel@hp-laptop> <1301257760.2321.11.camel@hp-laptop> In-Reply-To: <1301257760.2321.11.camel@hp-laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Dynamic Internet Messaging Program (DIMP) H3 (1.1.6) X-EBL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EBL-MailScanner-ID: 47C05844015.ADAF6 X-EBL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-EBL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, spamhaus-ZEN, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0, required 6, autolearn=disabled) X-EBL-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-EBL-MailScanner-Watermark: 1301908815.66691@pNWz5T4429Of9Q0WkgMhBA X-EBL-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:16:37 +0000 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prebind from OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:20:19 -0000 Quoting Jesse Smith (from Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:29:20 -0300): > Thanks very much for the reply. I had thought this was a project/port > that was in progress, rather than something waiting on research. Do you > know if that's also the case with other projects on the Ideas list? A > lot of them don't have many details or contact information associated > with them. I'm especially interested in the OpenBSD xlint port. Here's what I told a student who wants to participate in the GSoC about the OpenBSD lint port entry: ---snip--- The project is about having a look at what OpenBSD did to their lint. So first analyze what we have, then analyze what they have, and then see if stuff they have but we haven't can be ported. This assumes that there is a common ancestor to both lints, and that the code didn't diverge too much so that we do not have an either this or that situation. IF the code diverged to much or if there is no common ancestor, there is nothing to do regarding this specific project (it would be a new project to improve our lint). I do not know the code of both lints, so I do not know much improvements there are which we don't have, and how much work it is to port this over. In the worst case there is not enough or too much to do this as a GSoC project. Should be easy to determine by reading the history of lint on both version control systems to see if there is a common starting point, and if yes to see how much they derived from there. Regarding the lint project itself... I (= personal opinion, not an official word from FreeBSD) do not think this is a project which would gain a lot of interest (= highly rated during the GSoC evaluation). If you want to send in a proposal for this (after researching if it is feasible, see above), I suggest to send in more than one proposal. This should improve your change to be chosen. In the last GSoCs we had students which send in several proposals, some of the proposals didn't gain enough interest, but another one from the same person was chosen. Seeing multiple proposals from the same person gave us a hint about his technical knowledge (sane expectations in the proposals or not). ---snip--- Bye, Alexander. -- Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes? http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137