From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 18 15:36:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B2837B401 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:36:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF2D43ED8 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:36:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: from rogers.com ([24.101.253.54]) by fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.05.06 201-253-122-126-106-20020509) with ESMTP id <20021218233548.CQFH513731.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rogers.com>; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:35:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3E010667.1000302@rogers.com> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:36:07 -0500 From: Mike Jeays User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021005 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco Radzinschi Cc: FreeBDS-Questions Subject: Re: Going from Windows to X - suggestions References: <20021218091547.H17922-100000@radzinschi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.101.253.54] using ID at Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:35:48 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marco Radzinschi wrote: >On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Raphaël Dingé wrote: > > > >>>>Install KDE and/or gnome. Your call. >>>> >>>> >>>I'm new to FreeBSD myself, having used blackbox window >>>manager on a P133 with 48MB of RAM. Though it's not >>>impossible, with only 16MB or RAM, GNOME or KDE would >>>probably be pushing it; you'd be using your swap slice >>>continuously. I recommend blackbox, though it's not >>>as full-featured as the above. However, it's quite >>>easy to set up. >>> >>> >>I'm not sure that this won't do it either. I had made an >>installation of FreeBSD on old laptop with 32MB Ram. >>X was taking about all of it, I did put WMaker on top of it, >>which did not take too much memory itself. >>I had seen that 32MB was definitively not enough, but even 48MB >>would have been great ! >> >>Anyway, If you find some solutions with 16 MB Ram, I would be >>happy to know it, since I can't use my old laptop for now. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Raphael >> >> > >I imagine that FVWM would work. > >KDE and GNOME were too slow for my taste on my Pentium II 400 machine with >384 MB RAM, so I don't want to imagine how that would run with 16 MB RAM. > >On the other hand, that was with XFree86 4, but it might have run well >had I tried it with XFree86 3. You may want to consider not running >XFree86 4. > >http://www.fvwm.org > >Marco Radzinschi >E-Mail: marco@radzinschi.com > >Wed Dec 18 09:15:47 EST 2002 > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > I have found both Gnome and KDE too slow to be much use on a NEC 200MHz Pentium 2 laptop (Versa LX), with 64 MB of memory. It somehow 'feels' much slower than a Pentium 120 desktop with 48 MB, and I wonder if the disk is unusually slow. FVMW works fine - I get usable results on an ancient 486 33 with 20 MB with that window manager. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message