From nobody Tue Aug 26 08:22:17 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cB0yV53jsz66SB1 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 08:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olce@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cB0yV4JRJz3dBT; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 08:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olce@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756196546; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=daBsXD2jrgg7VQhKIgm+SFzCZl9iqSj/RRorT3ve+dU=; b=FjCKBJGQViIlH2sw8raN6TMs19H86jagzRETHP2GpK4vbXXNUV1+ignaP+W6ZRNTAdY6Jx wnEvw0ecQseNYzsDK0ncC9C1+j2NxcEtdG9/herzMdWFDm/F/4M6m2Ql2Igt7dvAwm963X G56l1y2pv/CFrI2dalb+LDpAXltPPjrlLqATUYB+8aRdxU0pTIsuwrCAVReqkKFeY0g7Y3 QzkDOXaTGA4SjLFJbdT0D6FMvbYcG09LKPhjghOov2CU9A7JqZksqBWfMoMA4+Q0Wd+B3a n4KwlDmp9xKL/r1/Qf3NkPGSxs0Ah0DSiFhSQ1A0L0MBSFpQzJXVD713QUFAyA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756196546; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=daBsXD2jrgg7VQhKIgm+SFzCZl9iqSj/RRorT3ve+dU=; b=vQ0TlwfZ1ZnfZzpquRXI6n+9YC/arC5XG6FD7eh9BHAxcs36ADQnm8uGhFN+75HdpR+BY3 wdtZcSAPt/S6FWf1eyHqI6zt28HclctP+6NLgMK/zyTLAFeYEZLcr34v/oRARYBPP28KVZ wODMxWxl4UHpcpspSPQTPWquVTufrrdWJI5Vd8gJAIXocRMHInahjaSSJrC+uvhqCJiOIp L2864xwuBAxKlDatv/ExU14aZqTi9bo9hbN4pE2IM/6tJLQZgoFa/H/E3MQOyxDowNdnJU oPZP7+QwNQW1qaCug9K0b+NIz5VT2buc7JP7WDG1ShAIXvvqMN5x+01vt+WzuQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1756196546; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=PYhBZNFP6RvscrVG983pHMzF4mDk0MdV41cWLal2C/W0PUYAwoYnfjNpfarxPvB5laNRPy kZXl20eBBxw7ZFj7PLEv49xi+qyVy2QkPaQB7FD+KYlRbPyoo4rXG55JuDvT7P+3mAVP2p T3cbsEB+MiCHpWJl1rKAQwJ8aJfEEmKjOfmIJJVxgvclyg+hDzeJTi+QQDo4CyvFFRnbtz buLWOCUYvy8h/wGKWiP5qxCNKH7FNHOGQupSBkpyB51/+GpBDDiwvHD1B7cw6yt3Jqxx4s cxvZ8NzO/hPYJ39LkwOmB0vMTiZ8iLZQKaQwLpZJtf+AM9bP2xHIvrL8rfWWKw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from francois.localnet (aclermont-ferrand-653-1-222-123.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.14.66.123]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: olce/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4cB0yT3tcYzPS1; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 08:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olce@freebsd.org) From: Olivier Certner To: Dag-Erling =?UTF-8?B?U23DuHJncmF2?= Cc: Warner Losh , Kyle Evans , Alexander Leidinger , Marcin Cieslak , Xin LI , Current , Gleb Smirnoff Subject: Re: UPDATING stuff Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 10:22:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4075052.kAAoriTUSa@francois> Organization: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <86ms7nv1tv.fsf@ltc.des.dev> References: <2r579os7-29n7-890r-9210-s3s1n4r0s4qo@fncre.vasb> <2398435.mfXeX5GmMH@francois> <86ms7nv1tv.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2902739.iL6vRArjjl"; micalg="pgp-sha384"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --nextPart2902739.iL6vRArjjl Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Olivier Certner To: Dag-Erling =?UTF-8?B?U23DuHJncmF2?= Subject: Re: UPDATING stuff Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 10:22:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4075052.kAAoriTUSa@francois> Organization: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <86ms7nv1tv.fsf@ltc.des.dev> MIME-Version: 1.0 > If you mean =E2=80=9Cadd COMPAT_FREEBSD14 to GENERIC when creating branch > stable/15=E2=80=9D then you're way behind.=20 That isn't my point, which is about policy. See also Kyle's last reply. > The only people who were affected by the recent syscall changes were peop= le > running CURRENT with custom kernels not based on GENERIC or MINIMAL, > which is not something I'd recommend. This specific "problem" was addressed by point 2. Thus, it should have bee= n obvious that point 1. wasn't about that use case. Did you bother carefully reading and understanding what I wrote, as well as= the mails I referred to, before replying? =2D-=20 Olivier Certner --nextPart2902739.iL6vRArjjl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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