From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 23 11:00:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01042 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:00:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from norquay.tor.shaw.wave.ca (mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca [24.64.63.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01031 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:00:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from purebeef@shaw.wave.ca) Received: from shaw.wave.ca ([24.64.141.116]) by norquay.tor.shaw.wave.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA24639; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:01:10 -0400 Message-ID: <358FECEA.B579208C@shaw.wave.ca> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:59:07 -0400 From: Lanny Baron Organization: York Hill Foods X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Malartre , "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Lists, newbies & support References: <358F01AB.1BED3257@aei.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Malartre wrote: > arthur wrote: > > > It will continue to be a "techie" OS that is slow > > > growing and will probably never really catch on. I am beginning to think > > > that this is exactly what most of the "elders" at FreeBSD really want. They > > > are probably already overworked and simply don't have a lot of time for > > > truly newbie questions. > > > > > Hi, I have used FreeBSD since the 1.1.5 version. The following only applies to me. As much as I really Love FreeBSD, it is a very techie OS. I have had a LOT of help from people such as Jordan Hubbard and Greg Lehey. The biggest problem that I face is a lack of understanding of the basics. The other big problem is that once the system is started, I want to do 50 things at once. That for sure is no help in learning the intricacies of FreeBSD. As far as help is concerned. It is assumed that any user to FreeBSD will take the time to read the appropriate MAN page for his/her problem. Sometimes I find that the man page is very technical in nature and implies you know quite a bit already. I am NOT knocking our MAN pages. I have been told on some IRC channels that our (FreeBSD's) MAN pages are excellent compared to some other variant UNIX os's. And on the topic of help, there is a channel on the efnet (IRC) called #freebsd which I regularly frequent (and frequently get banned). I have received excellent help from some of the users there. I must mention Genesys, as he telneted to my pc and fixed a few things. Now I would like to see Microsoft do that. As we all know that is not going to happen. Albeit #freebsd is not the official help center for FreeBSD users. But it is a great place to learn a few things. The other problem is that of the case of the person who has ants in his pants and can't sit and learn well. That case is mine. Its called attention deficit disorder. Nonetheless, FreeBSD will grow when it can do a larger marketing concept. But then that costs big bucks....anyone want to pitch in? FreeBSD is a marvelous creation. It causes one to actually use the greatest gift we all have.....our brain (although some like mine are a little dysfunctional) Cheers... Lanny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message