From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 5 23:34:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF96737B401 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C1743F3F for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:34:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h666XkVU008449 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jul 2003 09:33:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h666XgZ8008440; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 09:33:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 09:33:42 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20030706063342.GA7846@sunbay.com> References: <267229455.1056645499@melange.errno.com> <16135.14729.867357.839956@canoe.velocet.net> <20030705221335.GC66426@sunbay.com> <20030706.094038.96603831.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030706.094038.96603831.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: sam@errno.com cc: dgilbert@velocet.ca cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [current] hostap+wi X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 06:34:22 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 09:40:38AM +0900, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20030705221335.GC66426@sunbay.com> > Ruslan Ermilov writes: > : On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 04:48:09PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > : [...] > : > The hostap machine is 4.8-STABLE and the client is 5.1-RELEASE. > : >=20 > : One nice thing about the hostap is that bridge(4) works with wi(4) > : that is in hostap mode. Does anybody know if only Intersil cards > : have the hostap mode, or some Prism's also do? >=20 > Intersil and Prism are the same thing. Prism 2, 2.5 and 3 cards have > Intersil firmware. There are some cards based on prism chipsets that > have Symbol firmware, but those are rare. The wavelan/lucent/orinoco > firmware doesn't support a hostap mode, but there are add-ins that > give ap functionality. >=20 Uh sorry, it was very late in the night here; of course I meant Lucent chipsets when asking if they also support host-ap mode. What are these add-ins you're talking about? I'm mostly interested in the bridge(4) functionality. As I understand, to do briding, the card should be able to send frames with arbitrary MAC addresses, and when not in host-ap mode, Lucent based chipsets do not allow this (i.e., you see with tcpdump(1) that packets is written to wi0 interface, but the other end doesn't receive the frame). What surprises me here, is that these same cards appear to work (by forwarding arbitrary Ethernet frames) when inserted into Lucent-based APs. Does anyone have a valid explanation to this? Is this an artificial limitation on these cards to limit their commercial use, or am I missing an obvious? Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/B8LGUkv4P6juNwoRAhbEAJ9T49fcPSztVE9So+qDhvhQU+emmgCfeCuu 6IgmhS5mK8CZUMfGIGkWCik= =IagH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC--