From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu May 24 10:31:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ancmail1.state.ak.us (dced.state.ak.us [146.63.92.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727A637B422 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 10:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian_raynes@dnr.state.ak.us) Received: from dnr.state.ak.us ([146.63.110.115]) by ancmail1.state.ak.us (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GDUOOC00.5WA; Thu, 24 May 2001 09:31:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3B0D455A.4EC01B13@dnr.state.ak.us> Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:31:06 -0800 From: Brian Raynes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Annelise Anderson , freebsd newbies Subject: Re: Introductory Book on FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Annelise Anderson wrote: > > On Tue, 22 May 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > You can look at the pdf to see what was used to produce it, > > worse than MS Word though is Adobe. ;-) > No, he's not mistaken--Word 97, Adobe Photoshop, Acrobat Distiller. > > But I don't like to debate this sort of issue, I don't blame you for that! > so in my own defense > I offer only this, from the Colophon to _Unix System Administration > Handbook_, Third Edition, Evi Nemeth et.al (a wonderful book, even > for newbies): This book has been a terrific help to me too. Reading it was refreshing because of how the only basis for advice was practicality and utility. There is a distinct lack of bias toward one vendor or another, compared to other books. Some that post to the mailing lists will find the lack of religious fervor for different UNIX only or free software only tools offensive, but the rest of us like hearing only what works and what doesn't in each respective option. The quote below is a perfect example of that. PDF format can now be _read_ by almost anyone on almost any operating system, with _free_ (as in cost) tools. Not to mention it's easy to print from, if you like that (I do). I use it work for sharing printed materials all the time. Even though everyone I work with uses MS Windows and MS Office at work, the versions of Office are not universal and PDF format overcomes this for Windows users too. > > "We produced the first edition of this book with the UNIX troff > package. For the second edition, we used a MacIntosh. We > produced this third editon entirely on Microsoft Windows 95, > 98, and 2000....We used Adobe FrameMaker for layout, with Adobe > Illustrator and Adobe Photoshop for graphics and illustrations. We > also used Adobe Acrobat throughout the production process. It > allowed us to distribute chapters and graphic files to many different > people without worrying about fonts or application compatibility. > We delivered the final manuscript as an Acrobat file, too." > > Annelise I look forward to being able to buy your book! Thanks for all the work on helping newbies in FreeBSD! Brian Raynes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message