From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 22 0: 6:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from elitists.org (www.elitists.org [64.40.73.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE9837B406 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:06:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@elitists.org) Received: from blah (64-40-88-202.pk.dsl.grics.net [64.40.88.202]) by elitists.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 313A7213; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 02:16:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <04d901c12ad9$48adbce0$6601a8c0@elitists.org> From: "F. Even" To: "Hodge Podge" , "Marc Rassbach" Cc: , "Michael VanLoon" References: Subject: Re: 3ware stuff not ready for heavy duty useage-followup Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 02:08:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Until you have introduced one seperate/additional power supply into this mess though, you can't discount it!!! Jeez. There have been other theories tossed out, but damn, that is a LOT of devices in a tight power tolerance there. ALSO...what kind of system is this? P4? AMD? Those both need MORE POWER. It is not a "silly" suggestion. Can you imagine that YOU might be wrong in immediately discounting every suggestion put forth?! IF YOU know what it can and cannot be, then why did you bother to even post to this discussion list? There must be no problem then, and if there is, you must certainly know what it is then......and if that is the case, you should in fact be able to fix it, right? ...and that one manufacturer's link you posted earlier...note, it said "up to" 13 drives. Case probably comes with none, or they probably tell you that you need more power for that many. If you look at their other servers, none of them are that anemically powered. ...and your comparison to 1 and 2U servers is not relevant, as most of them won't have that many devices crammed into them, hence NOT needing that much power. Yeah...I have a couple 1U rack mountable VA boxes, and they only have I think 200W PS's....but, there is not that many devices being powered. Common sense here. No one is not necessarily discounting that there COULD BE other problems, but you seem to not want to investigate anything else except the card. If you can whip together one of those magical 300W/8+device SCSI machines to handle full-scale enterprise database access, then do that I guess. Have fun. ...oh please....the Galileo comparison is pathetic. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hodge Podge To: Marc Rassbach Cc: ; Michael VanLoon ; Darryl Okahata Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:31 AM Subject: Re: 3ware stuff not ready for heavy duty useage-followup Yes however I will bet even money that if I put a seperate power supply on every friggen drive and still have the same problem someones gonna say.. I bet one of Those supplys was bad.. Can folks try, just try to imagine that they "could" be wrong and come up with some other reason? Do I honestly have to Prove it wrong in some scientific way before you are willing to imagine some other possibility? Jeeze. Some time I or someone else will have a chance to test the theory, but for now that is all it is. One thoery. Did you read, really read, my last two posts on this? Nicole Ok Now I am getting a little snide. It just feels like what galileo went through. He was almost killed for beliving that the earth revolved around the sun in contrary with current belifes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message