From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 16:40:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187C416A400; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD9713C44B; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC2E2086; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:39:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on tim.des.no Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BF22084; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:39:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 693D650AD; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:39:58 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Darren Reed References: <20070409011723.GB74547@garage.freebsd.pl> <20070409094319.GB76673@garage.freebsd.pl> <70e8236f0704090808y5d305175wdc3cee5be1a26a9@mail.gmail.com> <20070409153338.GH76673@garage.freebsd.pl> <440b3e930705131031v5e97db7fq486d8d17aeb9f622@mail.gmail.com> <20070514070715.GA82322@hub.freebsd.org> <86646vyimg.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070517124648.GA98052@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:39:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20070517124648.GA98052@hub.freebsd.org> (Darren Reed's message of "Thu\, 17 May 2007 12\:46\:48 +0000") Message-ID: <86lkfntndt.fsf@dwp.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek , Joao Barros Subject: Re: ZFS: amd64, devd, root file system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:40:06 -0000 Darren Reed writes: > Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav writes: > > Remember that unlike Sun, we do not make the hardware our OS runs on, > > nor do we write the firmware for it. > Do you see my email address as being "@sun.com"? No, but ZFS comes from Sun, and Solaris is the only OS that can currently boot from ZFS; therefore the comparison is germane. My point is that it is a lot more difficult for us to implement ZFS support in an OS that is intended to run on everything and the kitchen sink, from the crappiest 486 to the latest quad-core Xeon, with all kinds of crappy disk controllers, than it is for Sun to do the same in Solaris, which mostly runs on hardware designed and manufactured by Sun for the specific purpose of running Solaris. > I really don't understand why you needed to be so inflamatory with > your email, I'm not being inflammatory. I am just pointing out that we have limited resources and what you ask for is a lot of work - more than you probably realize - for little real benefit. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no