From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 8 13:32:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E67A16A4CE for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 13:32:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C7743D75 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 13:32:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD03FBA73 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:32:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25875-05 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:32:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (outbound.daycos.com [204.26.70.70]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4695EBA60 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:32:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:32:16 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <87eknn9yoi.fsf@basilikum.skogtun.org> <20040708123823.01F534AC29@fw.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20040708123823.01F534AC29@fw.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_gzU7AKjC+GSamNQ"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407080832.16508.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: Rewrite cvsup & portupgrade in C X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:32:32 -0000 --Boundary-02=_gzU7AKjC+GSamNQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 2004-07-08 07:38 am, cpghost wrote: > Actually, there are some network daemons written in Perl, Python, Java, > ... probably also in Ada or Modula-3. They are great for their intended > use, but they are generally not used in production environments with high > requirements. I used Python to write a bridge adapter between my company's Unix servers=20 and Windows databases and it's been running uninterrupted for several=20 months in a rather demanding environment. Of course, the plural of=20 "anecdote" isn't "data", so take that with a grain of salt. I do almost all new development in Python. Frankly, I don't trust my own=20 abilities to catch every single stupid error that I'm likely to make when=20 writing in C, and my personal throughput is much higher in Python than C. = =20 Having said that, one of the things that attracted me to Python is that=20 it's trivially easy to write specific functions in other languages=20 (including C) where appropriate, so you can use a nice, high-level language= =20 for the parts where performance isn't critical, but some tightly optimized= =20 C for the essential components. =46reenet is written in Java, although that's not a shining example of a sl= eek=20 application. The BitTorrent tracker and most common client apps are=20 written in Python. The maintainer of Leafnode has discussed writing the=20 new version in Python. There's not a huge groundswell yet, but servers in= =20 high-level languages are starting to trickle in. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --Boundary-02=_gzU7AKjC+GSamNQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBA7Uzg5sRg+Y0CpvERArzKAJ9Zm6smRZrtKcinJ/cWGOae/ZmdIACaAkjQ sq3cl5efkfqcVxUCZmu2wyc= =0tGS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_gzU7AKjC+GSamNQ--