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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 11afa668670fb97cf5b6c41025f2fa76; Sat, 30 Aug 2025 15:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: pkg upgrade, vfs.zfs.arc.free_target, vfs.zfs.arc.sys_free (was: CFT: pkgbase support in 15.0) From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <0dbf8c95-7697-4887-a890-335c3ccd80f1@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2025 08:50:03 -0700 Cc: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0dbf8c95-7697-4887-a890-335c3ccd80f1@gmail.com> To: Graham Perrin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cDfjS3t8Zz3cMP On Aug 29, 2025, at 19:46, Graham Perrin wrote: >=20 > = >=20 > On 30/05/2025 17:02, Mark Millard wrote: >=20 >> =E2=80=A6 Did you do any tuning of the ZFS-in-use examples >=20 > Recent test results, with a VirtualBox snapshot of: >=20 > - FreeBSD 14.3-RELEASE-p2, AMD64, 525 packages from FreeBSD-base >=20 > - x11/kde, x11/sddm, x11/xorg,and ten others from FreeBSD-ports Your pictured count of non-base "prime-origins" indicates 11 of them. > - all packages cached =E2=80=93 pkg upgrade -fFqy, repeatedly. >=20 >=20 > pkg upgrade -fUy >=20 > a) failed at least once with 12 GB memory without tuning >=20 > b) succeeded at least once with 13 GB without tuning >=20 > c) succeeded at least twice with 2 GB, ARC tuned. >=20 >=20 > Failure (a): That shows, in part (warning: the text extraction may have inaccuracies): QUOTE [3156/3246] Installing webkit2-gtk_40-2.46.6_1... [3156/3246] Extracting webkit2-gtk_40-2.46.6_1: 100% Child process pid=3D895 terminated: Killed . . . root@pkg:~ # pkg prime-origins | grep -u base | we -1 11 . . . END QUOTE Without the list of 11, it messy for anyone else to (approximately) replicate the consequence list of (around) 3246 for independent testing of such via a close match --or, alternately, that include at least those (and possibly more from an existing environment). > Temporarily set before (c): >=20 > sysctl vfs.zfs.arc.free_target=3D256000 >=20 >=20 > Success here means _not_ encountering: >=20 >> Child process =E2=80=A6 terminated abnormally: Killed >=20 > =E2=80=93 with /var/log/messages showing the pkg context: >=20 >> killed: failed to reclaim memory >=20 > ---- >=20 > I can not compare with 15.0-PRERELEASE until after completion of = p9652f95ce8e4_sb45a181a74c main-amd64 on beefy18, = .=20 >=20 > Comparison with 15.0-ALPHA1 will be more meaningful. >=20 > Not yet tested: vfs.zfs.arc.sys_free in lieu of = vfs.zfs.arc.free_target =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com