From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 07:46:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CD16C5E; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 07:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from toco-domains.de (mail.toco-domains.de [176.9.39.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 293F72141; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 07:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [0.0.0.0] (mail.toco-domains.de [176.9.39.170]) by toco-domains.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7F6F01AA3856; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 09:46:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <538ECEC8.2090706@toco-domains.de> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 09:46:16 +0200 From: Torsten Zuehlsdorff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Linimon , Eitan Adler Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD bug tracking moves from GNATS to Bugzilla References: <92E4FB10-DDC8-4B3E-9242-4E8494491630@FreeBSD.org> <538DBAEC.5060905@gmail.com> <538E2924.3090002@gmx.de> <538E2AC9.7010309@sasktel.net> <538E32E5.5040400@marino.st> <20140604003430.GB18109@lonesome.com> In-Reply-To: <20140604003430.GB18109@lonesome.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: marino@freebsd.org, Matthias Andree , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Stephen Hurd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 07:46:20 -0000 On 04.06.2014 02:34, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 01:50:23PM -0700, Eitan Adler wrote: >>> I don't concede killing anonymous means killing trivial bug reporting, >>> but if that was the case: Oh well, I guess we have to focus on >>> non-trivial bugs. >> >> Trivial bugs are important too. > > I'll echo eadler a bit here, but with a different emphasis. > > What _I_ consider a trivial bug is based on my own past experiences > with FreeBSD. Someone who is new to it and is submitting their first > bug may not see it as trivial. We don't wish to discourage them. > > Discouraging people from contributing is counterproductive. We need > more contributors, not less. > > I know for certain that people in the past have given up after submitting > PRs that were never answered. While I know we don't have the manpower to > deal with all of them, that should at least be our ideal. Yes. It is really frustrating to create a bug-report with a complete patch just to wait for some months and seeing that nothing happens. And even after offering help it is closed with "timeout" and the bug still exists. And yes: trivial bugs are important. If something trivial not work, why use it? So it should be very easy to submit a report. Greetings, Torsten