From owner-freebsd-xfce@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 29 00:45:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: xfce@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D14C4616 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 00:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5918E1B03 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 00:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5DCBCD50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.203.205.80]) (authenticated bits=128) by land.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0T0jIjO061779; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 00:45:19 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s0T0fTdI009750; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 01:41:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0T0f9D7085996; Wed, 29 Jan 2014 01:41:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201401290041.s0T0f9D7085996@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Olivier Duchateau Subject: Re: distfiles, please add @freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 28 Jan 2014 22:34:50 +0100." Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 01:41:09 +0100 Cc: "xfce@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 00:45:41 -0000 Hi, Olivier Duchateau wrote: > 2014-01-28 Julian H. Stacey : > > Hi xfce@FreeBSD.org > > www/midori/Makefile > > MAINTAINER= xfce@FreeBSD.org > > > > Suggestion/Request: Please add ftp.freebsd.org to list of distfiles > > & park a copy there, because I just checked on http://midori.org & they > > only store latest to download there, no option to download older, which means > > our ports 10.0-RELEASE tree is already broken, as release ports/ wants > > > > midori_0.5.6_all_.tar.bz2 > > > > & http://www.midori-browser.org/download/source/ > > only offers tar.bz2 · 0.5.7 · 1.1 MB > > > > So all releases of FreeBSD are currently doomed to be obsolete > > almost immediately. > > Hi, > > I don't understand your complaint, why add freebsd distfiles directory. > If you want to download previous and latest versions, real host is > launchpad.net [1] (this host is piece of shit, when we need to fetch > tarball). > > [1] https://launchpad.net/midori > > > > > PS Yes I'm aware of & make fetches there, but it doesnt solve the > > problem of release. We have ~ 20,000 ports, (personaly I use about 1,000), shortly after release I build my personal set, (& other people will build theirs later when it suits them) & yet just days after release midori distfile URL is already obsolete & worse no other sites with the old version of distfiles needed by 10.0-RELEASE/ports/www/midori, & no search engines offer alternate URLs. It's acceptable to leave Release & jump to build in current ports, for each of those (in my case among 1,000) ports in Release that may be broken, but it a waste of time to issue a release ports tree, with a midori tree we Know will quickly be deliberately unusable. The disruption is because midori project is short sighted & Only offers latest version & prevents access to the older version our FreeBSD release is issued for. Compare with something like ghostscript, where lots of sites have lots of old versions too, so a Makefile from a Release port will still build, unlike a midori port. As midori master site is removing distfiles on which release ports/www/midori is based, ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ should hold a copy of the exact distfile that the RELEASE ports/www/midori/Makefile requires. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Interleave replies below like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text, not quoted-printable, HTML, base64, or multipart/alternative.