From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Jan 12 09:50:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17866 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:50:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17838 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:50:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id JAA00428; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id JAA21577; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:48:47 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id KAA14257; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:48:45 -0700 Message-ID: <369B8AFD.23822B2D@softweyr.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:48:45 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stefanos@e-scape.net CC: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: State of the union, 1999. References: <3.0.5.32.19990110013242.0094db10@mail.frmt1.sfba.home.com> <9901111956.AA02634@traveler.uniscape.com> <369ADC7A.96FB883B@softweyr.com> <9901121715.AA02978@traveler.uniscape.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kiakas wrote: > > You wrote: > > I've got a better idea. Let's look at this from the point of view > > that it has been discussed over and over again before, long before > > you crowd of newbies ever flocked in here, and > > > > WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET RID OF THE DAEMON! > > I wasn't around back then, so stop yelling! Precisely my point. You weren't around back then, so someone needs to yell it loud enough it'll sink in. > Everything changes the source code, the algorithms, the ports > collection, etc. Why? How about marketing? What is so sacred about the > marketing material that it cannot change? Should we not try and improve > everything about FreeBSD? Should we just worry about the technical > aspects, and then wonder why FreeBSD is not getting the recognition it > deserves. > > Just like the code and technical aspects of FreeBSD are > upgraded, so should the marketing material. Atter all, excelence is not > being perfect at only fifty percent of a task. This statement serves to illustrate only that you have a profound lack of understanding of what FreeBSD is. It is not just an operating system, or even just a "project." It is a community, and a part of an even larger BSD community of people who give their time and talents for something they believe in. The Daemon isn't just "marketing material," he's a mascot, an essential piece of what BSD is about. Until you understand this, you will NOT make a good spokesman for this community. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters +1.801.915.2061 Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message