From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Wed Jul 29 17:10:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD9B9AE068; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gold.funkthat.com", Issuer "gold.funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA5CD1E07; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t6THAqAj013028 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id t6THAqva013027; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:10:52 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: George Neville-Neil Cc: Adrian Chadd , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Daniel Plominski , FreeBSD Net Subject: Re: remove IPsec SKIPJACK support... Message-ID: <20150729171052.GK78154@funkthat.com> References: <20150728005730.GL78154@funkthat.com> <1DB60250-D362-4115-92F6-E27B7A5897C3@netgate.com> <20150728034157.GO78154@funkthat.com> <5E419103-3111-4ADC-A49F-B703BBBC9C5F@netgate.com> <20150728060740.GP78154@funkthat.com> <55B768DC.6020009@Plominski.eu> <20150729161103.GJ78154@funkthat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150729161103.GJ78154@funkthat.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (gold.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:10:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:10:54 -0000 John-Mark Gurney wrote this message on Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 09:11 -0700: > George Neville-Neil wrote this message on Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:35 -0400: > > That's fine so long as its removed in HEAD now, and then the warning can > > go into 10 aka 10.3. > > As I said, setkey doesn't support it.. and I looked at the ports for > racoon2 and strongswan (has it in their library, but, and neither support it... Are there any other > programs (besides custom software) that can do secdb manipulations that > could possibly create a skipjack sdb entry? Checked the other two IKE daemons in ports, and ipsec-tools does not use it, and isakmpd has a define in the OpenBSD specific headers (which we don't use), but doesn't use it for anything... > If not, putting warning into 9 and 10 seems excessive for a feature that > people can't even use... > > > On 28 Jul 2015, at 13:25, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > > > > I'd put together a deprecation plan, which starts with the kernel > > > warning that this stuff is being removed, MFC that to stable/10 and > > > stable/9 so people aren't surprised when they upgrade, and then have > > > it removed in 11. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."