From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 08:04:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E7E1065670; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB428FC0C; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so6457841iad.13 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:04:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=8FHbJLaWvgw602CEMZx8UEZ79emE9THzrpBD0w/C6BM=; b=NGX0UFr5SimDq6Bx99VO0lhsXnUezd/0U3fDPwhFPiY3N9f4rt/6K9k8smn86kax+r NdErXApZ7rJ2/L2f/yI+gCOV4LLQt6HGxwEsYJ9TMJlPPjKMYMJfBvmtot1AWWb799Q0 T7aqmu35OfRnydWW7309uJPEHhgvJ4e/LQ0ho= Received: by 10.231.65.73 with SMTP id h9mr1918731ibi.21.1316333044060; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:04:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.35.194 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:03:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E751428.7040609@a1poweruser.com> References: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> <4E7453CB.1040908@freebsd.org> <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> <4E751428.7040609@a1poweruser.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:03:34 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 23UAXJvriaXPx0Tvhos5fQ715x8 Message-ID: To: Fbsd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:04:05 -0000 On 17 September 2011 22:42, Fbsd8 wrote: > Chris Rees wrote: >> >> On 17 Sep 2011 17:25, "Fbsd8" wrote: >>> >>> Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 09/15/11 14:57, Fbsd8 wrote: >>>>>>> Out of the 9 USA maps only "us.iso.acc.kbd" worked somewhat. >>>>>>> The keyboard 9 key block above the arrow keys don't function. >>>>>>> Issuing the "man cmd_name" command doe's display the man page, >>>>>>> but the {Page up, Page down keys } don't work. >>>>>>> Also when using the "ee" edit command the {delete, Page up, Page down >>>>>>> keys } don't work. This does not happen in any of the previous >> >> releases. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Further more, localization of the keyboard should not be forced on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> user during the install process. This BSDinstall option should be >>>>>>> disabled or removed. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can press "Cancel" there, which will cancel keymap selection and >> >> keep the default. The utility being invoked is just kbdmap(1), and any >> changes to it need to go there. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Nathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> .. maybe name that button "skip" then? >>>>> >>>> The button is provided by kbdmap, as is the entire screen. We could add >>> >>> an "installer" mode to kbdmap that names it skip instead of cancel, of >>> course. I'm traveling for another 2 weeks and won't have time to do >>> >that, >> >> however. >>>> >>>> -Nathan >>>> >>> Nathan >>> >>> Its good to be talking directly with the bsdinstall author. >>> >>> Changing the cancel button in the kbdmap command to skip, does not >>> address >> >> the problem, which is the lack of knowledge of the standard bsdinstall >> user. >> I've been using Freebsd since 4.0 and never used the kbdmap command or for >> that matter even knew it existed. >> >> Wait, are you suggesting that everyone on Earth can "make do" with the >> "standard" keyboard layout until they learn rc.conf syntax? >> >> I would strongly object if localisation of the keyboard were not "forced >> on" >> the user; we don't all use pc105-us, and the ability to use the keyboard >> properly early on is kinda helpful. >> >> Chris >> >> > You would help yourself a great deal if you read the complete post before > jumping in. The rest of the post (ie: the part you neglected to include in > your post) clearly describes what I am suggesting. > I had read the rest of your post, and found it rather difficult to follow. The fact remains that every other installer I have ever used gives the user the choice of keymap, so I don't really understand your problem. If you're not suggesting removing localisation from bsdinstall, then please accept my apologies. Chris