From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 5 08:23:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003E916A418 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33E413C4A7 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so904123pyb for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:23:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=7kBiEAbjGPX1x7nnRUa0zhGktqKKZClI7l3op8Lzc1I=; b=X5DRkl6cJ2Za+DN/oTC3UeBWmEjro79Yqh2v9sbCZs0R++TQiCznXnw5oUV0M+i3uibuLLUGSOS/vU4QfzYkvAlZ1WP9hfXHrE5WiqZ+nFFMpZqM1RePsXu8U0y4CnT/hp5nDhS7Qe0Ld1X//Z7kg9jmpQ7bRyWkBHUR4/f7I7g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Dbiit04GvuPGmzIQzcouvf23IK7+A5HzT70VMRtUmROFMJQvRwSb/j2e3UDbnahHFtuyUDhhWC3dHgo46cIrJlguZmVnPJBOisISbliCRqYt/JzJXj2OlVve5pNdB1RTOP5k0Zbt7+HbKbxeQTNKGnJxDKmKSgHFfps8EeCdjgs= Received: by 10.64.243.10 with SMTP id q10mr27020295qbh.1191572583148; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.105.2 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 01:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:23:03 +0000 From: "Aryeh Friedman" To: "Wilko Bulte" In-Reply-To: <20071005080544.GA48744@freebie.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4705CA47.9090101@delphij.net> <20071005080544.GA48744@freebie.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, d@delphij.net Subject: Re: viral license free fork of freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:23:05 -0000 On 10/5/07, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Quoting Aryeh Friedman, who wrote on Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 05:42:07AM +0000 .. > > On 10/5/07, LI Xin wrote: > > > Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > > > I am intrested in putting together a version of FreeBSD (at least the > > > > non-ports portion) that is 100% viral license (gpl and lgpl [not > > > > techinically viral but I don't trust it]) free... where would be a > > > > good starting point on this project? > > > > > > Set > > > MK_GNU = no, and > > > MK_GNU_SUPPORT = no? > > > > Will that remove all gnu code? > > > > > > > > Well, if you want a moderate amount of work you may want to try > > > replacing sort(1) with the old BSD one, and optimize it. Also some > > > *roff stuff, etc. If you are really energyic then you will want to join > > > a project like llvm or so for a better compiler. > > > > I will look at what else needs to be done. > > "Just" a complete toolchain would also come in handy.. That is generally the conclusion I have come to and was just attempting to find a short cut around it. Matter of fact that is how I was planning to finance the effort by coming out with better tools then those offered by pure FOSS and due to the business model still leverage the power of the community to improve them... wrong place and too long of an explination to explain the how (see the url's in the first post)... for the particular target audience for at least the initial tools this is not too hard to do actually since the pure FOSS community has dropped too many balls in the community I am targeting.