From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 26 18:25:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from inconnu.isu.edu (inconnu.isu.edu [134.50.8.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A632B37B405 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:25:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from galt@inconnu.isu.edu) Received: from localhost (galt@localhost) by inconnu.isu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06800; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:24:25 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:24:25 -0600 (MDT) From: John Galt To: j mckitrick Cc: Terry Lambert , Subject: Re: FreeBSD and the shift to 'web services' In-Reply-To: <20010626203613.A85164@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: Copies-to: galt@inconnu.isu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, j mckitrick wrote: > >| Until these services can achieve the reliability of the telehone, >| and that includes your link into the service provider, they are >| not capable of replacing on-site business infrastucture. > >Hmm. Good point. Interestingly, a recent article claimed software itself >will someday become like a utility. > >| Should ".NET" become a reality, then it will be no time at all >| before it is reengineered in Open Source. The components are >| already there (Xerces, or XML4C++ from IBM's "AlphWorks", and >| other "glue code" is trivial to write to obtain the minimal >| required functionality). Companies will not win based on closed >| standards -- we learned that during the Cold War, and we're not >| going to make the same mistake again, when it comes to our critical >| infrastructure. > >IIUC, MS plans to use these open standards to create .NET, but it will only >work well if there are MS Win2k boxes from start to finish. Apparently, >some of the collaboration features of Office will (already?) follow a similar >model: every link in the chain must be running IIS. This sounds like a >creative version of 'embrace, extend, extinguish,' but they are starting >with their own standards! > >| I personally think that it's very unlikely that people wll trust >| Microsoft, or any single vendor with their data. That approach > >I agree. Their track record here is dismal. But how many office executives >care? > >'I just want my PalmPilot to sync my Access and Excel documents without >having to worry about it....' Already done: Quicksheet does Suxel pretty well FWIH and ThinkDB+thinkDBsync does Access so-so again FWIH. You just need to get a PIII or better--PalmPilots don't do PalmOS 3, which is required for both of these: previous to the Palm3, the OS ROM wasn't flashable. The FUN use of the Palm I recently heard about was using the sync cradle and TopGun to serial-boot a Sparc5. :) > > >jcm > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > -- FINE, I take it back: UNfuck you! Who is John Galt? galt@inconnu.isu.edu, that's who! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message