From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 25 12:41:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from akira.lanfear.com (akira.lanfear.com [208.12.10.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D40D14A1B for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:41:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MarcW@Lanfear.com) Received: by akira.lanfear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:44:00 -0800 Message-ID: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054A69@akira.lanfear.com> From: Marc Wandschneider To: 'Greg Lehey' , Mark Ovens Cc: Brooks Davis , James A Wilde , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Programmers' editor? Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:43:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Lehey [mailto:grog@mojave.sitaranetworks.com] > Subject: Re: Programmers' editor? > > > >> The real question is: what do newbies think? Anybody want to > >> comment? > > > > OK, I'll comment. Since this emacs v. vi thing has reared it's head > > again I used emacs instead of vi all day today (I even > renamed vi, and > > symlinked it to emacs to force myself). > > Brave man. With "newbie", I really meant somebody who hadn't used > either editor. I'm not trying to convert vi users. This debate is always pretty silly. My take: they're all cryptic and weird as hell. When I was first a CS student at the university, there were exactly two kinds of undergrads. 1. those who had somebody show them vi first 2. those who had somebody show them emacs/jove first I fell into the latter. When I first started up VI once, I panicked, ^Z and kill -9'd the damn thing. Now I can use it to do basic editing tasks. Those who first learned vi were even worse off with emacs, because the macros on our system didn't even let ^Z work on the thing -- they usually ended up logging off or killing a window. now, what I REALLY want is code colouring again. marc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message