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Date:      Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:43:59 -0800
From:      Marc Wandschneider <MarcW@Lanfear.com>
To:        'Greg Lehey' <grog@lemis.com>, Mark Ovens <mark@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
Cc:        Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>, James A Wilde <james.wilde@telia.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: Programmers' editor?
Message-ID:  <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054A69@akira.lanfear.com>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Lehey [mailto:grog@mojave.sitaranetworks.com]
> Subject: Re: Programmers' editor?
> 
> 
> >> The real question is: what do newbies think?  Anybody want to
> >> comment?
> >
> > OK, I'll comment. Since this emacs v. vi thing has reared it's head
> > again I used emacs instead of vi all day today (I even 
> renamed vi, and
> > symlinked it to emacs to force myself).
> 
> Brave man.  With "newbie",  I really meant somebody who hadn't used
> either editor.  I'm not trying to convert vi users.

	This debate is always pretty silly.  My take:

	they're all cryptic and weird as hell.  

	When I was first a CS student at the university, there were
exactly two kinds of undergrads.

	1. those who had somebody show them vi first
	2. those who had somebody show them emacs/jove first 

	I fell into the latter.  When I first started up VI once, I
panicked, ^Z and kill -9'd the damn thing.  Now I can use it to do basic
editing tasks.

	Those who first learned vi were even worse off with emacs,
because the macros on our system didn't even let ^Z work on the thing --
they usually ended up logging off or killing a window.


	now, what I REALLY want is code colouring again.  

	marc.


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