From owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 24 00:10:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6902116A4CE; Mon, 24 May 2004 00:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jkh-gw.queasyweasel.com (adsl-64-173-3-158.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.3.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF11243D31; Mon, 24 May 2004 00:10:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@queasyweasel.com) Received: from [64.173.15.98] (IDENT:484-ident-is-a-completely-pointless-protocol-that-offers-no-security-or-traceability-at-all-so-take@adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98])i4O7BxXb024962; Mon, 24 May 2004 00:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@queasyweasel.com) In-Reply-To: <003601c4415a$dc14cfb0$6501a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> References: <003601c4415a$dc14cfb0$6501a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Message-Id: <634F4BD9-AD51-11D8-8CA9-000393BB9222@queasyweasel.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:10:07 -0700 To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org cc: core@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hmm... why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated to libh code development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 07:10:20 -0000 On May 23, 2004, at 11:46 PM, wrote: > why does freebsd need a new installer? Why not allow the current=20 > installer "sysinstall" to just become user friendly..edit it and add=20= > new things to it... possilby even adding a graphical interface that=20 > works with it. It's all possible and correct me if I'm wrong--wouldn't=20= > it be less work? If sysinstall was just more userfriendly it would=20 > work very well. Go give it a try. Once you're done wrestling with the code for awhile=20= in an effort to "just make it more user friendly", you can answer your=20= own question. > =A0As for porting a=A0 Linux installer to FreeBSD... I do not = recommend=20 > it. there will be alot of conflict about the GPL vs. BSD licenses and=20= > we all know what kind of war that starts. I personally think freebsd=20= > should have its own installer under its own license. I think you sell the FreeBSD community a bit short. The issue is not=20 GPL vs BSD, and if there were a good, generic installation framework=20 that could be adapted to FreeBSD and was under the GPL, I don't think=20 people would blink twice at it. The problem with the Linux installers=20= isn't that they're GPL'd, it's that they're written to be very specific=20= to the distribution they're installing and make a lot of assumptions=20 about low-level Linux-specific partitioning methods and such. -- Jordan K. Hubbard Engineering Manager, BSD technology group Apple Computer