From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 29 22:04:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9FA106568B for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f190.google.com (mail-px0-f190.google.com [209.85.216.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4435B8FC1A for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi28 with SMTP id 28so1508508pxi.7 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MEY+OaThqo/Rc1iRWPF+vxZ6w5H3i17HADnLax29veQ=; b=s5q2Lg6yKb/nbxOSn37/qYnMggBbOfqh2HToeXfy/8rLJs5BmHq8jGRHkJChrFQaVO FznibQzQ25tbCcXBMbgUHl5JkIPRGqSmVper3UBn1XQncWqaZWTHgNkCboVfaw1GFjPn ix1DE8O7XpL+OPIsoYLKmunleBdkwjieSsg4o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=FyKSXFkoIp1+4iZbPOeHnXQFWbxRl2Feh6GNWvzcKngQsCcWBVuCAybWtvzgbeG/fc e1QRYYFqki0LaEK8PB2m0wKXskP4zI8/IN7WgwOjYZkVnzQGC9/deSttO5EkS9CchZa1 xzqwCpd8A3zaFkbL/gmS9ubIdtQMQBmRIj+xY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.61.23 with SMTP id j23mr56324wfa.299.1256853882034; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:04:41 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0910291504id12ba4fi1fd4c56bb7d290fb@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Freminlins Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Effing HAL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:04:42 -0000 On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Freminlins wrote: > For Christ's sake. I have an IBM X41 laptop, which was happily running > FreeBSD 7.1. Having a little free time this evening I decided to update it > to 7.2. The upgrade failed miserably so I had to install from scratch. But > that's OK, because I had backed up the machine beforehand. > > The install went through fine (via NFS after PXE boot - no CDROM on this > box). And then I get to X. As this is a minor update I go to use the old > Xorg config which worked fine. No joy. I get the dreaded "No screens found" > error, although the screen is there of course. After trying X -configure > several times, tweaking, etc., I get nowhere slowly. i810 is now just > intel, > but whatever. The screen comes up, but no mouse or keyboard. After yet much > more fiddling and tweaking I finally get to the crux of the problem: > fricking HAL. > > Having installed this from scratch using the X User defaults I might have > expected that something that is now required to get the flipping keyboard > and mouse working would be enabled by the installer. But no, I have to > waste > time on this crap just to get back to where I was before. Oh, and HAL uses > 6MB or so of RAM. Not a lot. But as I already specify the hardware in the > Xorg conf file it is, as far as I can see, an unnecessary waste. > > I thought it would be easy, but no, it's just a pain. It's wasn't > unsolvable, as I have years of fiddling with UNIX and FreeBSD in > particular. > But for effing Christ's sake. > > I know this isn't specifically a FreeBSD problem, HAL being needed by X. > But > the flipping installer should enable it when I selected X flipping User > from > the install options. > > My little upgrade has now turned from a bit of fun into a saga that I don't > want to go through again. > > I had to get this off my chest. It was, as they say, doing my head in. > > MF. > _______________________________________________ > > HAL dependency is a knob in xorg-server port. -- Adam Vande More