From nobody Tue Dec 13 20:41:37 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-arm@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NWr592RJhz4kjlL for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 20:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x632.google.com (mail-ej1-x632.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::632]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NWr59205Rz3NQC for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 20:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ej1-x632.google.com with SMTP id vv4so39641739ejc.2 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 12:41:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=oZxnnj8RGbAJvNEC2y5ZSRI8glelGrpHvGwIsS/C7vo=; b=wszek/WM+xpGnXofnIfbA88y4EFLnQBg99YO8C7jsc3nQK736if8F3HsFg174PP/BF f25cv0HZbQkr148GF24Wm6hoVkn16DW7RViUSWrdvSXjGVPBBujNcUiKt6IctqhnqHQ+ hXfxV9grM5cce/l75s0E18oA5RfuKFZmPOQaIYkeH4teChEainkSonZliq9nTxnv3sod eu9JVFBt2WZdxcMwxVfXgPFKLPVsGzNR6VJ/kB/0qz6pNKoUrTUn2pwq43cVg+anqA/0 gafX95sJUVeZ4gV/oCBhEixJUzYhozE/ZlMg0ZnN2aYr9clHXGzA0o8FlUR0FYVwEdZp DRMw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=oZxnnj8RGbAJvNEC2y5ZSRI8glelGrpHvGwIsS/C7vo=; b=1orEHFfmwaBLfgqp67RZwRyf9eMrk6eIgHfxCoY7x00MMORwKhN7lGYyruVf9ma4p7 h1nssoFxBQEiHc8U8W+TqK5xURFwhe5bCOjYGliIgOUjJ0h7TMZj4AW3LPIb6K7BmniF AE8mLE0O4KMbE6w6fbsbZGT2ppQciSiM4BVRPAnlbRgGCzPwNQhN2P7eLyMlbxUVpWoa SSXkJYW+y+P0dG5rTUlVnvgW8g5XIfuURCE03Ck6u1DEIfG1zB7wlTnawLEheNbayAxw UOG9bjFuWT+MkYIXZ5sv1+8bhs6+GEFOU9K5vFrRyhaiMv5G9uXEcVQJIZOSRzE/pzt8 Rb3w== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pkR+0fsFHOCfhJZlbR+sILru0r3YwAN/f96fZGX3AplRP2ujcjv Kxh/oICRaB38q7b5EKZaTKp8JKVfAzjn/osQewBSLZP+5kypiQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf4QP4Cekl6K2sd0RkznCEUHr0LrRAc+RRdWcfnPVsj6V9pBzrFYf5/UCluZtrZupRt0QFa0lAiEqGInfQL4tUU= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:29c3:b0:7c0:e0db:f136 with SMTP id y3-20020a17090629c300b007c0e0dbf136mr17702701eje.333.1670964108118; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 12:41:48 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <59E6F239-10E1-4958-87BA-49960C7C146E.ref@yahoo.com> <59E6F239-10E1-4958-87BA-49960C7C146E@yahoo.com> <20221213202856.GA73930@www.zefox.net> In-Reply-To: <20221213202856.GA73930@www.zefox.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 13:41:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 14: Poll armv6 deprecated or removed (just a reference to the new message on freebsd-arch) To: bob prohaska Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000018db9f05efbba60b" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NWr59205Rz3NQC X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000018db9f05efbba60b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 1:28 PM bob prohaska wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 11:57:42AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 11:48 AM Mark Millard wrote: > > > > > FYI: The old 2021-Oct-28 message related to armv6 removal > > > sequencing/timing has a new follow up finally: > > > > > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch/2022-December/000313.html > > > > > > (Nothing about this changes the armv7 status.) > > > > > > > Nope. > > > > tl;dr: armv6 packages will stop, we'll stop doing -current armv6 > snapshots, > > we'll move armv6 to > > an 'extra' architecture in universe for stable/14. post stable/14 we'll > > tear down support for armv6 > > in base and later in ports. Ports mention armv6 ~500 times, maybe 1/4 of > > them also mention armv7, > > and the vast majority of them mark things as broken in some way (though > > there are exceptions). > > Apologies if I'm belaboring the obvious, but does that imply armv7 > support will go on as now for the near future? > Correct. No changes to armv7 support are planned. It's better maintained than armv6 and has a much wider reach. It's still relevant... Warner Thanks for reading, > > bob prohaska > > > --00000000000018db9f05efbba60b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 1:28 PM bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 11:57:42AM -0700, War= ner Losh wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 11:48 AM Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com= > wrote:
>
> > FYI: The old 2021-Oct-28 message related to armv6 removal
> > sequencing/timing has a new follow up finally:
> >
> > https:= //lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch/2022-December/000313.html
> >
> > (Nothing about this changes the armv7 status.)
> >
>
> Nope.
>
> tl;dr: armv6 packages will stop, we'll stop doing -current armv6 s= napshots,
> we'll move armv6 to
> an 'extra' architecture in universe for stable/14. post stable= /14 we'll
> tear down support for armv6
> in base and later in ports. Ports mention armv6 ~500 times, maybe 1/4 = of
> them also mention armv7,
> and the vast majority of them mark things as broken in some way (thoug= h
> there are exceptions).

Apologies if I'm belaboring the obvious, but does that imply armv7
support will go on as now for the near future?
=

Correct.=C2=A0 No changes to = armv7 support are planned. It's better maintained than armv6 and has a = much wider reach. It's still relevant...

Warner

Thanks for reading,

bob prohaska


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