From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 23:08:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73E875CA for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x236.google.com (mail-ig0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F3D93B2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hn15so1867199igb.3 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:08:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SL4dN36VIm3yDeh7rrerR3OaJE/saiCjl9UOjSht8mo=; b=XtPHsKXN4anvKNVWScjL4xJMFARUq1atSl6zg5H1SiBEv1pb0/Kk8y0J7jZDqF1B7k GZLtog5E1qojKjPwx7Y/dDTh4fYbkPmQmXp+G3kQ5i4k4xF+X4ciDBxTKogEPnF/JlOn YE393alZEOU2HslDdQPlRn06b2J6F9hUtHneC/9YfLDA9HkriHqLA83mONco17eJ3vJG M+NoaqAFzI11HPZ6OMfGd/+l/J6SsrAWM1S8yM3WXnz45I2zjWmruhVs9d9gqQcOXd8R TOx/3yX1BflwQwGe2bT4RvU44yeM+6oELTFwoJDKkwgqQkY2cWOCLyd7wxwQNVSkpfA/ aIkw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.179.195 with SMTP id br3mr5016402icb.37.1416438489744; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.147.164 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:08:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:08:09 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: comments on code-in tasks for FreeBSD From: Dieter BSD To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:08:10 -0000 > I cannot even imagine a 13 year old knowing what FreeBSD is. Why not? They've probably heard of Apple and Linux. If we want to increase the number of people improving BSD we want to encourage, not discourage them. Teens may not have decades of experience and a PhD in CS, but they often have energy and interest. Let *them* decide what they want to tackle and what they don't. Remember the stories of some teacher putting an "impossible" problem on the board, and the next day some kid has solved it. There used to be a PR database with things that needed improving. But these problems were just minor little things like kernel panics, lost data, and other unimportant stuff that no one ever works on fixing. Certainly wouldn't want some kid finding a fix for a problem that wasn't shiny enough for the old folks to tackle.