From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Aug 13 16:19:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EFF14F51 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt4-208-166-127-137.dialup.HiWAAY.net [208.166.127.137]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA11305; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:16:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09931; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:51:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199908132251.RAA09931@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: mwm@phone.net (Mike Meyer), freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: On freezes in 3.2-Stable In-reply-to: Message from "Kenneth D. Merry" of "Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:00:55 MDT." <199908131700.LAA61444@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:51:42 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Kenneth D. Merry" writes: > Believe it or not, we've got something similar to the Ultrix spin-up stuff. > > FreeBSD/CAM will spin up drives on boot that are not already spinning. > Generally, this happens in the probe stage, at the serial number inquiry > stage. Most disks will not return a serial number without being spun up. > Some disks, most notably high end IBM disks, will return their serial > number without being spun up. So the boot process goes on in that case, > and the drives are spun up when the da driver sends its read capacity > command. I didn't know that. Cool. In my case IBM drives are spinning up on the adapter's initial probe. So they are already spinning by the time CAM sees them. Have spent much more time reading Seagate installation manuals than the IBM manuals, but I think both drives offer 3 different ways to handle power up. 1) spin on power up. 2) wait 10 seconds times your SCSI ID. Or 3) don't spin up until told to. I usually opt for #3. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message