From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 9 5:53: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gate.volvo.se (gate.volvo.se [192.138.110.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B5C15638 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:52:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@nike.volvo.se) Received: by gate.volvo.se; id OAA09929; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:52:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from unknown(131.97.124.70) by gate.volvo.se via smap (4.1) id xma009864; Sun, 9 May 99 14:52:37 +0200 Received: by nike.volvo.se with (8.6.12/1.37) id OAA07243; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:52:37 +0200 Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 14:52:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: John K To: Christopher Michaels Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Not able to see freebsd machines on NT machine In-Reply-To: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB440110586A@site2s1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On a side note: I heard somewhere that the Mircosoft IP stack includes NetBios information in it=B4s TCP/IP headers ( //Computernames and so on) and that this is why you can "browse the network" even if there=B4s no NetBeui on your=20 windows box. I haven=B4t disassembeled any packets to see if it is true though. Best Regads John On Sat, 8 May 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote: > HUH?! What in the world makes you think you can't browse w/o NetBEUI? A= ll > NetBEUI is, is a protocol, such as IPX and TCP/IP. They are interchangea= ble > at that level and have nothing to do with browsing. I happen to > intentionally not install NETBEUI on my windoze (95/98) machines and only > have TCP/IP, browsing works just fine (why have multiple protocols when t= hey > aren't needed? less overhead I say). Browsing is determined more by subn= ets > and wins servers and the like. >=20 > Now down to the original question... >=20 > Are the Samba / win98 / NT machines all on the ip subnet and all in the s= ame > workgroup/domain? > What type of machine is the "master browser", NT server? > Can you manually connect to the FreeBSD machine from the NT machines, e.g= . > using NET USE \\MACHINE\SHARE ? >=20 > -Chris >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From:=09Kent Stewart [SMTP:kstewart@3-cities.com] > > Sent:=09Monday, May 03, 1999 3:05 PM > > To:=09Wayne Shiver > > Cc:=09freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject:=09Re: Not able to see freebsd machines on NT machine > >=20 > > I assume you are running SAMBA. Win 9x usually chooses to setup > > NETBEUI. That is an add-in option on NT that most serious networks > > choose to leave out. You can end up with broadcast storms when your NT > > servers have NETBEUI installed. You can't browse without NETBEUI. You > > can, however, connect by using \\netbeui-name\share. Then, you don't > > have the overhead of NETBEUI on your NT servers and the serious > > side-effects. I think I have netbios over tcp/ip, which is the default > > I think, but it has been a few months since I had to tinker with my NT > > machines. I am trying different configurations on FreeBSD and mostly > > telnet to the FreeBSD system. I don't want them running SAMBA. > >=20 > > Kent > >=20 > > Wayne Shiver wrote: > > >=20 > > > For some strange reason I can see freebsd machines in Windows 98 but = not > > > on any of our NT workstations or servers. Does anyone no how to get > > > around this problem? > > >=20 > > > Wayne > > >=20 > > --=20 > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > >=20 > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message